Whats with the race preference?

Discuss about life in Singapore. Ask about cost of living, housing, travel, etiquette & lifestyle. Share experience & advice with Singaporeans & expat staying in Singapore.
Post Reply
User avatar
ecureilx
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 9811
Joined: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 5:18 pm

Post by ecureilx » Thu, 19 May 2011 11:34 am

pochari wrote:For what it's worth, my realtor mentioned that landlords tend to prefer non Indians and Chinese because he said that their cooking is very strong and it can cause problems with neighbors.
Is that so ?? so, indians, chinese not welcome ..

That leaves out ?? :)

from what I know, no neighbor complained .. it was the landlord fearing the use of his expensive kitchen top will mean the kitchen is dirty ..

so far, seriously, i never heard of a neighbour complaining .. except in the case I mentioned, filipinos cooking stinky fish :) And that was ten years plus ago ..

okdone
Member
Member
Posts: 28
Joined: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 9:10 pm

Intolerance breeding from social frustration?

Post by okdone » Thu, 19 May 2011 4:59 pm

Hi everyone,

This could be because of the cooking issue coz I noticed many clear postings "Strictly NO Indians" and for the rest they refused us verbally. There is usually a polite reply "Indian food smells too strong". And I think this is generalized to all Indian cuisines.

Then I got another situation where we were rejected by a Indian Tamil family for being Non-Vegetaranian. My wife is a born vegetarian and I explained this to the guy. But he didn't ever wanted to listen saying I might be eating Non-Veg outside and coming in.

So, cooking and particularly is becoming a fair excuse to actually hide the real social preference. Oh I just realized I might have to look for a fresh contract for my house and it will open the same Pandora box again :D

I do know that there are few people who are hooked in to the kitchen. It seems to be their favorite pass time.
Do the Best, Sustain your performance and Talk Less.

mom2gurls
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 13
Joined: Fri, 27 May 2011 1:36 pm

How irritating.

Post by mom2gurls » Fri, 27 May 2011 5:26 pm

Well we may consider an expat assignment to sing, but this whole "no indians thing"...has me worried on a different level. BTW, me and my dh are north indian....but born and brought up in the UNITED STATES....and if we have indian food twice a week...its a good thing.

How will we be treated....is there racism beyond the home...do I have to tell people...oh I dont really cook at home...LOL. Is me and my fam seriously going to be treated like second class citizens????

BTW...I have no plans on living where are the indians congregate...its not our style...would prefer where the expats live for a truly international experience.

User avatar
ecureilx
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 9811
Joined: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 5:18 pm

Re: How irritating.

Post by ecureilx » Fri, 27 May 2011 5:35 pm

mom2gurls wrote:Well we may consider an expat assignment to sing, but this whole "no indians thing"...has me worried on a different level. BTW, me and my dh are north indian....but born and brought up in the UNITED STATES....and if we have indian food twice a week...its a good thing.

How will we be treated....is there racism beyond the home...do I have to tell people...oh I dont really cook at home...LOL. Is me and my fam seriously going to be treated like second class citizens????

BTW...I have no plans on living where are the indians congregate...its not our style...would prefer where the expats live for a truly international experience.
you are quick to form impressions I guess ..

The issue is not racism, but towards not in favor of people who cook at home, and so it happens that Filipinos and Indians like to cook, they are in the least preferred list .. for SOME OWNERS .. not all

You should pull your head out of your where-ever-it-is, and stop forming this 'second class citizen'

And for 'where expats live' - in Singapore Expats live everywhere, unless you want to be surrounded by your brethren, whence, it may be good to stick to Serangoon Road area .. and, yes, you can have indian food 3 times a day or more ..

and I don't get it .. you want a truly international experience, but want to shack up among your people ?? :( :(

Rant mode off ..

PS: In Singapore, DH - Maid (domestic help) .. so you live with your maid ?? :D :D

mom2gurls
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 13
Joined: Fri, 27 May 2011 1:36 pm

Post by mom2gurls » Fri, 27 May 2011 5:43 pm

Dude chill out. Your tone is rude an uncalled for and so is your rant. I never said I want to live near my people, (made it clear) to that....we would rather take in the international experience by living around people from all around the world.

And about my cooking style, it was simply to state that when I cook indian food, its not heavy on the spices and the like..its not our preference to eat heavily spiced food.

As a mother of young children, I have a valid point of wanting to make sure I, nor my family are discriminated against when and If we start looking for places to live.

Thanks for letting me know that DH means something different in sing.

User avatar
poodlek
Reporter
Reporter
Posts: 878
Joined: Mon, 10 May 2010 3:48 pm
Location: Taipa, Macau
Contact:

Re: How irritating.

Post by poodlek » Fri, 27 May 2011 5:45 pm

ecureilx wrote:
mom2gurls wrote:Well we may consider an expat assignment to sing, but this whole "no indians thing"...has me worried on a different level. BTW, me and my dh are north indian....but born and brought up in the UNITED STATES....and if we have indian food twice a week...its a good thing.

How will we be treated....is there racism beyond the home...do I have to tell people...oh I dont really cook at home...LOL. Is me and my fam seriously going to be treated like second class citizens????

BTW...I have no plans on living where are the indians congregate...its not our style...would prefer where the expats live for a truly international experience.
you are quick to form impressions I guess ..

The issue is not racism, but towards not in favor of people who cook at home, and so it happens that Filipinos and Indians like to cook, they are in the least preferred list .. for SOME OWNERS .. not all

You should pull your head out of your where-ever-it-is, and stop forming this 'second class citizen'

And for 'where expats live' - in Singapore Expats live everywhere, unless you want to be surrounded by your brethren, whence, it may be good to stick to Serangoon Road area .. and, yes, you can have indian food 3 times a day or more ..

and I don't get it .. you want a truly international experience, but want to shack up among your people ?? :( :(

Rant mode off ..

PS: In Singapore, DH - Maid (domestic help) .. so you live with your maid ?? :D :D
EEEEEEEEEEAsy there, down boy. I'm not sure you read everything in her post accurately. I could comment point by point, but I don't think it's necessary, so I'll just say this: DH is a very common chat room acronym for "Dear Husband" and I doubt anybody would have gotten that confused given the context.

User avatar
ecureilx
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 9811
Joined: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 5:18 pm

Post by ecureilx » Fri, 27 May 2011 5:57 pm

mom2gurls wrote: As a mother of young children, I have a valid point of wanting to make sure I, nor my family are discriminated against when and If we start looking for places to live.
Which is what I was trying to figure out .. where you got the impression that you maybe treated as second class citizen .. based on RACE .. and there are enough hints in your post .. never mind

Thanks for letting me know that DH means something different in sing.
Well, I added a couple of smileys after that .. to emphasis I meant it in jest ..

Poodlek: can figure this out ?? Or maybe my eye sight and brain needs some surgery ..

.is there racism beyond the home...do ....

LOL. Is me and my fam seriously going to be treated like second class citizens????

User avatar
poodlek
Reporter
Reporter
Posts: 878
Joined: Mon, 10 May 2010 3:48 pm
Location: Taipa, Macau
Contact:

Post by poodlek » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:05 pm

ecureilx wrote:
mom2gurls wrote: As a mother of young children, I have a valid point of wanting to make sure I, nor my family are discriminated against when and If we start looking for places to live.
Which is what I was trying to figure out .. where you got the impression that you maybe treated as second class citizen .. based on RACE .. and there are enough hints in your post .. never mind

Thanks for letting me know that DH means something different in sing.
Well, I added a couple of smileys after that .. to emphasis I meant it in jest ..

Poodlek: can figure this out ?? Or maybe my eye sight and brain needs some surgery ..

.is there racism beyond the home...do ....

LOL. Is me and my fam seriously going to be treated like second class citizens????
After the tone of the rest of your post the smileys were a little out of place. Making it seem like your were pointing out her stupidity in jest, rather than making a clever observation. And I think she has a valid concern, given that any LL who says "NO INDIANS" is practicing racism by its very definition, even if their concern is only the cooking style. And a person who is discriminated against for their country's cuisine may very well feel like a second-class citizen. Try practicing a little empathy, dude.

If I were her and a LL asked if me if I was Indian, I would neither confirm nor deny and say "I'm American, what difference does it make?"

User avatar
JR8
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 16516
Joined: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:43 pm
Location: K. Puki Manis

Re: How irritating.

Post by JR8 » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:05 pm

mom2gurls wrote:...me and my dh are north indian....but born and brought up in the UNITED STATES....
Oh my blinking god, the absolute worst kind then.


:)

User avatar
poodlek
Reporter
Reporter
Posts: 878
Joined: Mon, 10 May 2010 3:48 pm
Location: Taipa, Macau
Contact:

Re: How irritating.

Post by poodlek » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:08 pm

JR8 wrote:
mom2gurls wrote:...me and my dh are north indian....but born and brought up in the UNITED STATES....
Oh my blinking god, the absolute worst kind then.


:)
@ecurlix this is how you make a joke. Without the attack beforehand.

User avatar
ecureilx
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 9811
Joined: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 5:18 pm

Post by ecureilx » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:14 pm

poodlek wrote:If I were her and a LL asked if me if I was Indian, I would neither confirm nor deny and say "I'm American, what difference does it make?"
Then she should by her own house and do what she wants .. ah, by the way, atleast here, unlike a lot of cases in US, where the landlords refused to sell houses to specific races, Singapore residents don't have so much of 'racial equality .. ' when selling .. And, don't forget, the LL refusing to rent to Indian MAYBE AN INDIAN WHO WANTS HIS HOUSE TO BE SPICK AND SPAN WITH NO GREASE/OIL STAINS IN THE KITCHEN...

This is Asia, and show me one country where atleast a bit of race preference is not obvious .. ah come on ..

If I was the landlord, I would say "Well, black american or white american .. " no, I would never say it, but that is what I will hear anywhere in Asia .. ah, by the way, i could go on about my experience in INDIA .. but, hey, I know you gonna slaughter me ..

Now before you start spilling your guts out .. I am sorry if I riled you and the poor nice lady from US. A million apologies ..

JR8, do you need a nuclear shelter ?? :D :D got one at

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -eBay.html

PS: Poodlek, if you live in Keppel Bay, you can find a house, where the poster can buy it outright, possibly ?? so there is no need to fret over any issue like renting ?? :D :D And thanks for teaching me how to make a JOKE !!!

User avatar
JR8
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 16516
Joined: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:43 pm
Location: K. Puki Manis

Post by JR8 » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:17 pm

poodlek wrote: And I think she has a valid concern, given that any LL who says "NO INDIANS" is practicing racism by its very definition, even if their concern is only the cooking style.

Yeah and, Asians are racist.... big shock?


And a person who is discriminated against for their country's cuisine may very well feel like a second-class citizen.

Indians are probably the most racist race on earth. Shock horror.

Try practicing a little empathy, dude.

Landlording is a business, not a charity via which to sing Kumbaya and make global friends

If I were her and a LL asked if me if I was Indian, I would neither confirm nor deny and say "I'm American, what difference does it make?"

Ah idealism vs gritty Sing-Chinese reality...

mom2gurls
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 13
Joined: Fri, 27 May 2011 1:36 pm

Post by mom2gurls » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:18 pm

Yup, north indian, new yorka and loud...(mamma bears claws coming out).

Anyway, if its not a big deal there its not a big deal. Dont even let me get started on our current assignment in india (yup and indian expat IN INDIA). Its "interesting" to say the least.

Thanks

mom2gurls
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 13
Joined: Fri, 27 May 2011 1:36 pm

Post by mom2gurls » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:20 pm

and your right (to whoever posted)...you cant say "boo" about race, religion, sexual pref here in the U.S. so that is also part of my shock..its new..but like anything we will adapt..if we do decide to pop over to the island.

User avatar
JR8
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 16516
Joined: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:43 pm
Location: K. Puki Manis

Re: How irritating.

Post by JR8 » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:22 pm

poodlek wrote:
JR8 wrote:
mom2gurls wrote:...me and my dh are north indian....but born and brought up in the UNITED STATES....
Oh my blinking god, the absolute worst kind then.


:)
@ecurlix this is how you make a joke. Without the attack beforehand.
Thanks Poodlek, I was rather pleased with that one too LOL! :wink: :wink:

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Staying, Living in Singapore”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests