Which pram or stroller is the best to use in Singapore?

[Dolph]

Bugaboo Cameleon. Used it for my two babies in Singapore and didn't have any problems. Your baby's spine is more important than whether or not you can get round the aisles of Cold Storage. IMHO. (Incidentally, I *could* get round the aisles of Cold Storage. And my local one is tiny.)

[ev-disinfection]

I would have bought this if they had them 14 years ago...

[poodlek]

I would have bought this if they had them 14 years ago...

Haha that looks like Quinny again, and Quinny is a no-go Pretty cool tho!

Just curious to those worried about the newborn's spine, and having the bassinet strollers: how do you get around in taxis? Do you carry a car seat with you also or do you just carry the child in your arms? I haven't seen any travel systems that have the bassinet and the car seat attachment where the child could travel in the bassinet with the car seat attached.

[ev-disinfection]

Hi Poodlek, How is Baby doing?

http://www.google.com/search?q=bassinet ... 80&bih=673

[x9200]

Just curious to those worried about the newborn's spine, and having the bassinet strollers: how do you get around in taxis?

I wonder that too.

[poodlek]

Hi Poodlek, How is Baby doing?

Hi EV-D, baby is doing great! He just learned how to have a proper laugh, and he had the ladies in stitches at the MoM yesterday while he got his photo taken. Something set him off and in moments he had all the ladies crowding around him making silly faces and sounds. Happiest D-pass photo ever!

[ev-disinfection]

Hi Poodlek, Show us the photo then... i think we would all love to see it.

[gravida]

Just curious to those worried about the newborn's spine, and having the bassinet strollers: how do you get around in taxis?

I wonder that too.

Well, when we are travelling in a car the priority is given to the child's safety. Hence the baby is in the car seat and if he accepts it (most of the time so far he didn't and we had to carry him), he was in the car seat attached to the pram's base.
BUT I knew from the beginning that I will be taking my child for a walk Every day, so it was important for me to have both- bassinet that is better for the little one's back and spine for everyday use and the car seat for occassional use. I think in average he is in his car seat approximately ten times a month, 3x more time he used to spend in his bassinet/spends now in the regular pram seat.


So simple, no rocket science

[poodlek]

Just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing some type of super stroller that did everything.

I think in average he is in his car seat approximately ten times a month

Same here, which is why I didn't see it as such a big deal. We don't go out walking much in this heat. My son happens to hate laying on his back during the day so except for when we go out in a taxi he's in the moby or baby bjorn Pretty much the only time my baby is on his back protecting the growth of his spine is when he's sleeping at night.

[gravida]

I am taking mine for a walk each day, as I already mentioned. When we were buying the pram, I thought he would be laying in the bassinet for at least an hour every day (that's the shortest I spend walking with him). The reality is different, as most of the time between birth and 6 months of age he was crying like crazy in his pram, so I was actually pushing empty pram and carrying him in my arms. That's what he calls "spine protection"

[x9200]

So simple, no rocket science

Probably not for the people rejecting the car seat as such because of less or more imaginary potential spine problems.

[natalyakir]

So simple, no rocket science

Probably not for the people rejecting the car seat as such because of less or more imaginary potential spine problems.

Hehe, I don't reject carseats to use them in the cars but! I just don't feel like I should let my little baby be strapped in it for a few hours. Imagine, if I take a car to go and see doctor, then It will take at least 1 or even 2 hours to get home. Waiting time at the clinic, then of course half an hour ride to clinic and same time on the way home. And If let's say, I want to go to Botanical gardens for a few hours walk plus the road... My baby can be in the carseat for 4 hours instead of lying in the stroller\pram comfortably. Besides that have you ever tried lying the reclining armchair? I have one at home by the way. The first ,I don't know, 10 min you think how comfortable it is but then you realise, not enough comfortable to compare it with normal bed, because you cannot change positions. Just to let you know, carseat is not a must in Singapore, it is heavy and for the stroller I chose, I will buy a bassinet and a stroller, I will use a horizontal and then vertical carrier to attach a baby to me while on taxi or in need for free hands occasionally. Besides not all the taxis have facilities to attach a carseat, so for me it is not worth it. I would probably take a taxi a few times a month maximum, so I don't feel that I need it.
For those who think that I am negative, I can assure you I chose for my children what I think is best and I don't tell other people how they should act even if I think myself that:
- infant carseat should be used only for occasional rides, not instead of a normal stroller seat or bassinet.
- putting newborns before 3 months into vertical carriers is dangerous for their spine.
- letting newborns to sit with support to burp after food with massage or without (as I see may locals do here) far before they can sit without any support by themselves (appr. 6 months age) is also dangerous for their spine
- letting the babies, toddlers and then little children wear bad shoe options (totaly flat, very lose like crocs, without any arch support and\or heal support) make their bones to change and make their legs develop in a wrong way. I see more than half of children aged 1,5 year up to adults wearing bad shoes or then slippers walking in a funny way. I pitty them in the same way I see children and adults with chess way teeths(terrible ).

That is not only my opinion, it is based on our belief and medical proof from my own country where parental and medical care is very thourough. It is sadly different in Europe, America, Australia and even worse in Asia.
Please don't throw tomatoes into me.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Heaven knows how all the billions of upright straight-spine people in the world today got that way without all these new-fangled pieces of over-priced plastic, aluminum & cloth contraptions that pay some PhD to make silly claims about and saying they are doctors (well, they are, but they aren't MD's) fooling all and sundry into believing outrageous claims, but.....

I guess people have to spend their money somewhere......

It's probably better than buying beer & whiskey though.

[JR8]

Heaven knows how all the billions of upright straight-spine people in the world today got that way without all these new-fangled pieces of over-priced plastic, aluminum & cloth contraptions that pay some PhD to make silly claims about and saying they are doctors (well, they are, but they aren't MD's) fooling all and sundry into believing outrageous claims, but.....

I guess people have to spend their money somewhere......

It's probably better than buying beer & whiskey though.

So much of it is about making a statement to other people. This is the world the baby is being brought into.

[poodlek]

Just to let you know, carseat is not a must in Singapore, it is heavy and for the stroller I chose, I will buy a bassinet and a stroller, I will use a horizontal and then vertical carrier to attach a baby to me while on taxi or in need for free hands occasionally. Besides not all the taxis have facilities to attach a carseat, so for me it is not worth it. I would probably take a taxi a few times a month maximum, so I don't feel that I need it.

To me this is a shocking disregard for car safety. And it's not just my opinion. It is based on my belief and scientific proof from my own country where parental and medical care is very thorough. I don't think it's much different anywhere else in the developed world.

All taxis here have seat belts with shoulder straps, which is all you need to secure an ECE R44/04 standard infant car seat.

I understand your concern for your child's spinal health and development, however there are many ways to ensure your child's spinal safety without sacrificing the car safety. The detriment a car seat may cause to your infant's spine is cumulative, whereas it only takes one car collision to seriously harm or kill your child.

But it's your prerogative what you do with your child. I am happy with my decision, and if you think it's because I am from one of the countries you more or less referred to as ignorant, that's fine with me too.