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About to renounce SC

Postby concern » Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:30 pm

Hello to all Forum users

I'm new. This forum has been helpful. I'm Singaporean, my husband a Swiss and we lived in Germany. Both our children are born in Singapore but left as infant. Both have dual citizenship as well.

My son who just turn 21 is about to renounce his SC. Obtained Exit Permit and deferment until he's 21. Just received letter from CMPB. He is given until 4 Jul 2011 which is 3 months dateline to show the documentary proof on his cessation of SC, otherwise report at CMPB on 4 Jul 2011.

However, there is a problem here.

He became 21 on a Saturday, 02 April 2011, therefore is unable to take Oath and submit forms at the Singapore Embassy in Berlin which is 700km from us. Embassy is closed on Saturdays and Sundays and Public Holidays. Can't go to Embassy on Monday, 04 April 2011 either because his starts 4th semester at the university here. Yup, bad timing.

Couldn't do it at a local Notary Public here in Germany. They do not administer oath, moreover it has to be in English. All legal papers are done in German. We were told to do it at the Embassy by them. Law in this country is different.

Is it too late for my son to write to CMPB to request for a dateline extension till his 4th semester ends. I'm worried sick. Everything has been alright until his 21st birthday. He has 2 months and 2 weeks before the dateline expires. What are his chances?? Help!!

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:09 am

Any reason that he can't visit Berlin between now and July 4th, for a day?

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Postby concern » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 5:31 am

Hello JR8

Because my son has to attend lecture and exercise group everyday at university. Only time he could fly to Berlin is during his mid-term holiday in June.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 5:36 am

concern wrote:Hello JR8

Because my son has to attend lecture and exercise group everyday at university. Only time he could fly to Berlin is during his mid-term holiday in June.


Well I don't know. Half of my days at uni I never bothered going to anything. In retrospect a Big Waah.

And here you are saying it's two months to go and you are facing a decision that means your son might get arrested if he ever goes to SG again in his whole life...

Priorities?

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Postby concern » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 5:51 am

Since started 1st semester, never missed one lecture, exercise group or project work. Study computer science. It's just him. Since started kindergarten, never missed one day of school.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 6:25 am

concern wrote:Since started 1st semester, never missed one lecture, exercise group or project work. Study computer science. It's just him. Since started kindergarten, never missed one day of school.


Look this is not a major. GO and SORT OUT the renounce paper asap Or else he will be dead meat when he enters or transit in SG in the future. Lectures or whatever will have to be in the back burner compares to this unless you want to prepare to screw up his life in the future for something you did now. Choice is all yours. You hold the keys and the doors
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Postby Koalabear » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 9:41 am

concern wrote:Hello JR8

Because my son has to attend lecture and exercise group everyday at university. Only time he could fly to Berlin is during his mid-term holiday in June.


ROFL!!!! :lol:

I can't stop laughing when I read this post. Reminds me of those parents that make their kids like Gu Niang. Ironically a 2 year army stint could most likely make her son a well-rounded human being.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 4:52 pm

concern wrote:Since started 1st semester, never missed one lecture, exercise group or project work. Study computer science. It's just him. Since started kindergarten, never missed one day of school.


It sounds as if his perfect attendance record is very important to the both of you.

But imagine the complications that it might cause in future life if he is not able to enter/transit Singapore.

- At work he is offered transfer to really great position in SG, and has to decline it saying he cannot enter SG (all because he would not take one day off his study). No one will believe him, how great would that look on his record?

- Moves to Australia, every time he flies back to Europe 50%+ of the options for his flight routing are not applicable as he cannot transit Changi, all because he would not take a day off college.

- Marries girl who's family lives in SG. The parents are elderly and cannot visit Europe. So he never gets to meet them, all because he would not take one day off college.

etc.

The funny thing is you've already said he could go during half-term. So the issue does not really seem to be about taking time off. Rather it seems to be that you don't want to go to the trouble of sending him to Berlin for the day.

Perhaps you should sit him down and discuss the potential consequences of your actions with your son. Coincidentally there is another thread running right now where a SGn describes the bad decision to renounce before doing NS, and how it has lost him job opportunities (but at least he did renounce, and so can enter SG!). Now ten years later he in part blames his family for not helping him make the right decision. Think about it!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 5:10 pm

^^^^

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 21 Apr 2011 5:36 am

JR8 wrote:Perhaps you should sit him down and discuss the potential consequences of your actions with your son. Coincidentally there is another thread running right now where a SGn describes the bad decision to renounce before doing NS, and how it has lost him job opportunities (but at least he did renounce, and so can enter SG!). Now ten years later he in part blames his family for not helping him make the right decision. Think about it!


JR8 , sometimes people does not just cannot see through their thick heads, the importance of certain issues on hand. They bring their mememememe mentality even when they are living overseas.

SMS and I had the same thing before trying to explain to one chap john_nyc . He was trying to give advise for something he does not even know where to begin. Now, I am trying to tell the same thing to this guy tribez . He is disgruntled for lost opportunities but at the same time giving advise to JLC for something he has no clue at all. Talk about the blind leading the blind
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Postby JR8 » Thu, 21 Apr 2011 6:05 am

Yah MS, I see that.

I try to clearly but politely make that point to the OP.

You can lead a horse to water.... as they say.

Edit to add:
Maybe the OP should put her son on here to discuss this with us. It is his life on the line after all.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 21 Apr 2011 7:10 am

Which is exactly what I've been doing with my son since he was around 7 or 8 years old, every year around his birthday. In the beginning, of course, he doesn't quite understand, but each year, especially in his early-mid teens he starts understanding the implications and now, figures, out of 4 score and 10 he should be able to give up 2 to ensure the rest have no hitches nor hinderances later on in life. e.g., not burning any bridges. He understands it fully and on the 4 of May will be heading to P. Tekong to do his BMT.


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