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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 2:29 pm

I believe Saint, like yourself AND myself, all have similar stories/credentials. But ICA looks at a lot more than just that. And, they don't publish that information. So, you end up with people who, on the surface, look like identical applicants, but ICA sees it differently using their on tick boxes which we don't know about. Like I have a tendency to say, when the question is mooted, "how long is a piece of string?"

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Postby Ginner-Sg » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 3:10 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I believe Saint, like yourself AND myself, all have similar stories/credentials. But ICA looks at a lot more than just that. And, they don't publish that information. So, you end up with people who, on the surface, look like identical applicants, but ICA sees it differently using their on tick boxes which we don't know about. Like I have a tendency to say, when the question is mooted, "how long is a piece of string?"
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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 3:50 pm

ecureilx wrote:No, not sure what you think, but for me - when you have an excellent service, insisting you take down the officer's name / details, and insist on personal contact is not something professional people do ..(in my opinion .. )


OIC. For me if I am dealing with something complex and important I like to have a record of who I have spoken to. It is not so much wishing to have a personal contact, although if you have to go back to the same people over and over speaking to the same person is preferable to having to start from the beginning each time. For me it is more to do with that the advice has gone on record under their name, so it damned well better be correct.

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 4:19 pm

JR8 wrote:OIC. For me if I am dealing with something complex and important I like to have a record of who I have spoken to. It is not so much wishing to have a personal contact, although if you have to go back to the same people over and over speaking to the same person is preferable to having to start from the beginning each time. For me it is more to do with that the advice has gone on record under their name, so it damned well better be correct.


Maybe, maybe, but in Asia, when you start to record down staff name, especially when an organisation has excellent tracking system and knowledge sharing (as govt agencies are - no, I am not trying to win brownie points with SingGov), Asians take it as intimidation. And when the said person is not there, and you insist on speaking to the same person, the other people will start to wonder what you are upto .. or if the person you are looking is doing personal favors .. or hiding some info from the rest of the team ..

Maybe I am wrong totally :D :D

PS: In Some asian countries, taking down the govt officials name is as good as telling them "Oh, so your name is xyz, I asked your name so I can make your life miserable and will teach you a lesson" .. not in Singapore, but the need to do it otherwise also doesn't exist ..

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 4:28 pm

ecureilx wrote:
JR8 wrote:OIC. For me if I am dealing with something complex and important I like to have a record of who I have spoken to. It is not so much wishing to have a personal contact, although if you have to go back to the same people over and over speaking to the same person is preferable to having to start from the beginning each time. For me it is more to do with that the advice has gone on record under their name, so it damned well better be correct.


Maybe, maybe, but in Asia, when you start to record down staff name, especially when an organisation has excellent tracking system and knowledge sharing (as govt agencies are - no, I am not trying to win brownie points with SingGov), Asians take it as intimidation. And when the said person is not there, and you insist on speaking to the same person, the other people will start to wonder what you are upto .. or if the person you are looking is doing personal favors .. or hiding some info from the rest of the team ..

Maybe I am wrong totally :D :D

PS: In Some asian countries, taking down the govt officials name is as good as telling them "Oh, so your name is xyz, I asked your name so I can make your life miserable and will teach you a lesson" .. not in Singapore, but the need to do it otherwise also doesn't exist ..


Wow, thanks for explaining. What a cultural difference! :o

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 4:37 pm

JR8 wrote:Wow, thanks for explaining. What a cultural difference! :o


I was going to add that in some countries, if you ask for the officer's name, you may even be beat up :D :D NO kidding .. :D

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 4:58 pm

ecureilx wrote:
JR8 wrote:Wow, thanks for explaining. What a cultural difference! :o


I was going to add that in some countries, if you ask for the officer's name, you may even be beat up :D :D NO kidding .. :D


LOL :lol:

p.s. Reminds me of one time in Cuba c.20 years ago, having an 'animated discussion' with a hotel manager who absolutely point-blank refused to accept that the actions of his staff were his responsibility. That was like something out of Fawlty Towers lol...

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Postby reay » Tue, 17 May 2011 7:04 pm

My PRC wife who is a Work Permit holder for around 1 month only recently found out that she is 5 wks pregnant. She is intending to quit her job at the end of the month and return to China for around 1 month to settle some house loan matters before coming back to give birth in Singapore.

I'm contemplating applying PR for her before she quits her job but it seems abit too early as we just got married in Jan 2011. Another option would be for her to quit her job, wait till she returns from China and apply LTSVP for her when she returns. Not really sure when will be a gd time to apply PR for her...after giving birth in Singapore?

Any kind advice would be greatly welcome.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 17 May 2011 10:34 pm

reay wrote:My PRC wife who is a Work Permit holder for around 1 month only recently found out that she is 5 wks pregnant. She is intending to quit her job at the end of the month and return to China for around 1 month to settle some house loan matters before coming back to give birth in Singapore.

I'm contemplating applying PR for her before she quits her job but it seems abit too early as we just got married in Jan 2011. Another option would be for her to quit her job, wait till she returns from China and apply LTSVP for her when she returns. Not really sure when will be a gd time to apply PR for her...after giving birth in Singapore?

Any kind advice would be greatly welcome.


Did you get permission to marry her?

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Postby reay » Sat, 21 May 2011 1:30 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
reay wrote:My PRC wife who is a Work Permit holder for around 1 month only recently found out that she is 5 wks pregnant. She is intending to quit her job at the end of the month and return to China for around 1 month to settle some house loan matters before coming back to give birth in Singapore.

I'm contemplating applying PR for her before she quits her job but it seems abit too early as we just got married in Jan 2011. Another option would be for her to quit her job, wait till she returns from China and apply LTSVP for her when she returns. Not really sure when will be a gd time to apply PR for her...after giving birth in Singapore?

Any kind advice would be greatly welcome.


Did you get permission to marry her?


Yup. Already gotten the blessings from MOM.

Strange...her boss mentioned to her that her LTSVP would be returned to her after her work permit is cancelled.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 21 May 2011 5:22 pm

reay wrote:Yup. Already gotten the blessings from MOM.

Strange...her boss mentioned to her that her LTSVP would be returned to her after her work permit is cancelled.


:shock: :shock: Her boss works for ICA ? Does not mean that MOM gives you permission to marry entitles you to LTSVP. That is only the first step in many steps that you have to make. ICA will make you jump over hoops to get the LTSVP. Prepare for rejection
There are plenty of cases here ICA rejects their application without rhyme or reason. Once her WP expires on cancel , she has to leave SG then reenter under SVP and apply for LTSVP. You have to proof ability to support her with min. income of $2.5K, prepare all your docs for ICA submission
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 21 May 2011 5:36 pm

There is a distinct possibility that her bass doesn't know s**t from shinola as well. He probably has it confused with the standard short term SVP.

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Postby reay » Mon, 23 May 2011 5:54 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:
reay wrote:Yup. Already gotten the blessings from MOM.

Strange...her boss mentioned to her that her LTSVP would be returned to her after her work permit is cancelled.


:shock: :shock: Her boss works for ICA ? Does not mean that MOM gives you permission to marry entitles you to LTSVP. That is only the first step in many steps that you have to make. ICA will make you jump over hoops to get the LTSVP. Prepare for rejection
There are plenty of cases here ICA rejects their application without rhyme or reason. Once her WP expires on cancel , she has to leave SG then reenter under SVP and apply for LTSVP. You have to proof ability to support her with min. income of $2.5K, prepare all your docs for ICA submission


Her boss mentioned to her that she's not the first employee quiting the job because of her pregnancy and those who's work permit is cancelled will receive a letter to collect back the confiscated LTSVP. Nevertheless, my wife will be going back to China in early June to settle some personal matters and will return in 1 mth's time.

Guess I will have to repeat the same procedures of applying another LTSVP for her. :(

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 24 May 2011 4:19 am

reay wrote:Her boss mentioned to her that she's not the first employee quiting the job because of her pregnancy and those who's work permit is cancelled will receive a letter to collect back the confiscated LTSVP. Nevertheless, my wife will be going back to China in early June to settle some personal matters and will return in 1 mth's time.

Guess I will have to repeat the same procedures of applying another LTSVP for her. :(


Yeah but no two application is the same. Pray hard you will get it back. I would suggest a visit to ICA will be the first port of call
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hi

Postby homelygal » Tue, 05 Jul 2011 5:07 pm

i got the approval from mom
for marriage ....can anyone tell me how to apply for long term pass for my hubby ....will it be approve


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