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Post by ecureilx » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 9:36 am

ksl wrote:My GP here in Singapore tells me the pay is not good in Singapore at all for GP's! UK doctor's earn a great deal more! I also think this Country doesn't have any shortage of doctors and would probably take them from Chinese speaking countries if needed. Just my 2 cents.
Don't believe your GP ;)

Well, in Singapore, GPs in private practice make money, money enough for them to pay upto 400$ a day for locums ..

But, coming from other places, there is the need to do time in Public hospitals and work up to getting Full Registration, at the most, Foreign Grads are expected to put up 3 years or so before moving from T-Reg/C-Reg to Full Reg

Well, most of the doctors in govt sector are from Asian countries and lower pay .. and KSL, well, there is a shortage of doctors in the hospitals, short enough for Singaporean- overseas graduates to be offered a one-off payment of 20,000 S$ to 50,000 S$ to relocate back to Singapore ;) ;)

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Post by ksl » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 2:42 am

ecureilx wrote:
ksl wrote:My GP here in Singapore tells me the pay is not good in Singapore at all for GP's! UK doctor's earn a great deal more! I also think this Country doesn't have any shortage of doctors and would probably take them from Chinese speaking countries if needed. Just my 2 cents.
Don't believe your GP ;)

Well, in Singapore, GPs in private practice make money, money enough for them to pay upto 400$ a day for locums ..

But, coming from other places, there is the need to do time in Public hospitals and work up to getting Full Registration, at the most, Foreign Grads are expected to put up 3 years or so before moving from T-Reg/C-Reg to Full Reg

Well, most of the doctors in govt sector are from Asian countries and lower pay .. and KSL, well, there is a shortage of doctors in the hospitals, short enough for Singaporean- overseas graduates to be offered a one-off payment of 20,000 S$ to 50,000 S$ to relocate back to Singapore ;) ;)
Singaporean- overseas graduates to be offered a one-off payment of 20,000 S$ to 50,000 S$ to relocate back to Singapore
Our GP pedals alternative herbals as a business :lol: I'll have to tell her to vacate Singapore and return for the reward, let me know when a British GP gets a job in Singapore that isn't Chinese and on a local wage :wink: I'll change doctors

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Post by ecureilx » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 9:29 am

ksl wrote: ... I'll have to tell her to vacate Singapore and return for the reward ...
well, if she is running her clinic, I guess she is not eligible - the cash reward is for grads who are NOT in Singapore ..

and for her to go back to hospital work ? I am sure she will not want the cash if so .. haha

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Post by taxico » Sat, 21 Apr 2012 4:40 pm

ecureilx wrote:But, coming from other places, there is the need to do time in Public hospitals and work up to getting Full Registration, at the most, Foreign Grads are expected to put up 3 years or so before moving from T-Reg/C-Reg to Full Reg
two words (and you know it):

government slave
ecureilx wrote:Well, most of the doctors in govt sector are from Asian countries and lower pay .. and KSL, well, there is a shortage of doctors in the hospitals, short enough for Singaporean- overseas graduates to be offered a one-off payment of 20,000 S$ to 50,000 S$ to relocate back to Singapore ;) ;)
two more words:

NUS rules

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Post by taxico » Sat, 21 Apr 2012 4:55 pm

just to clarify my comments (i no longer work for the singapore government/MOHH/etc) for those who don't know:

it is impossible for an expat to get full registration. it is also darn near impossible for a non-singapore med school grad to get full registration. don't ask why. the Singapore Medical Council works in mysterious ways.

and if you did not graduate from the "world renowned singapore #1 first class best in batam and some say JB" national university of singapore yong loo lin school of medicine, you will always be treated as 2nd rate and the locals will always have doubts about your competency and qualification.

NO it does not matter if you did pre-med at nyu, and graduated cum laude from harvard (or oxford/cambridge/whatever) and completed your residency at duke (or whatever) and aced all your exams and come equipped with an inch high stack of glowing testimonials...

BE PREPARED TO BE A GOVERNMENT SLAVE BECAUSE NUS RULES ALL!

god forbid if you graduated from a med school in an asian country. you may be spat on from time to time just because.

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Post by ecureilx » Sun, 22 Apr 2012 2:08 pm

taxico wrote:j...
You are on the spot, except, that .. of late, UM has been getting better rating, and know a distant relative who walked into SGH as a Registrar - ex-UM :)

And already on her way upwards .. :)

So, NUS followed by UM .. all else, unless the person is Singaporean and is going under the incentive scheme -- yes, no go .. though there are a few or rather innumerous minor exceptions...

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 22 Apr 2012 2:36 pm

Hey Dr. Taxico, how have you been? How are the road burns coming along? I reckon all healed up by now. You disappeared off the radar for a while after that episode. Hope all is well with you & yours.
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Post by taxico » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 9:52 pm

ecureilx wrote:... of late, UM has been getting better rating, and know a distant relative who walked into SGH as a Registrar - ex-UM :)

And already on her way upwards .. :)

So, NUS followed by UM .. all else, unless the person is Singaporean and is going under the incentive scheme -- yes, no go .. though there are a few or rather innumerous minor exceptions...
there's a korean (SNU) C/SC at nuhs... rehab. i know he had plotted for years to come here to join his family and finally made it here last year.

his senior (also a korean) remains an AC... i know he gave up a lucrative career in private medicine to began his long arduous route to be a doctor in singapore.

unfortunately he thinks he (and his senior too) will get full registration after some years.

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Post by taxico » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 9:55 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:...Taxico, how have you been? How are the road burns coming along? I reckon all healed up by now. You disappeared off the radar for a while after that episode. Hope all is well with you & yours.
busy busy busy... sort of... with life in singapore.

the forum was getting a little odd (at that time) so i checked out for a bit.

i will frequent this place as often as i can contribute positively and be frank.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:05 pm

I liked you as Taxico, you just don't sound like a Frank. Can you sing? :D
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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 25 Apr 2012 9:16 am

taxico wrote:unfortunately he thinks he (and his senior too) will get full registration after some years.
Which, me knowing one person attached to NNI - who after 8 years - still is on Conditional Reg - seems to be the case .. and you are not wrong !!!

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more of the same

Post by cloudbase » Tue, 05 Mar 2013 1:35 am

Dear All,

Anyone yet 'cracked' the hegemony around becoming fully registered with the SMC?

I note that there are two or three GPs above posting, I wondered what your experiences 'became' for actually making enquiries?

Many thanks.

DS

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Post by bioshock » Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:28 am

Dear alinadcruz,

Before going down to Ministry of Manpower, you need to contact the Singapore Medical Council to actually see if you are even allowed to practise in Singapore in the first place.

No point making other arrangements before being allowed to do so.

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Post by taxico » Mon, 11 Mar 2013 3:17 pm

cloudbase wrote:...Anyone yet 'cracked' the hegemony around becoming fully registered with the SMC?
there are albeit not a big number, but they are super qualified and still working in a cluster somewhere.

they've definitely paid their dues, is what i mean, and will continue to do so.

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Post by ecureilx » Mon, 18 Mar 2013 8:58 am

taxico wrote:
cloudbase wrote:...Anyone yet 'cracked' the hegemony around becoming fully registered with the SMC?
there are albeit not a big number, but they are super qualified and still working in a cluster somewhere.

they've definitely paid their dues, is what i mean, and will continue to do so.
Cluster, is the KEY !!! :)

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