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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Apr 2011 5:53 pm

Hehehe...


The BBC are about as 'politically correct' as is possible to be. So suggesting it's broadcast a racist programme is never going to get off the ground. For example they have a policy of 'positive discrimination' such that about 25% of their staff are gay and/or ethnic minority. Almost all staff are liberals, and under 40.

Taking that on board you might begin to understand that people who live outside of urban/liberal centres like say London and Manchester don't feel much of a connection with it's domestic output, despite being required by law to fund it.

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Postby unrevealed » Sat, 09 Apr 2011 7:51 pm

JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX58bjwIbiQ&playnext=1&list=PLF99D95346A324338

Ting Tong meets Ivanka


Hi UnR

I'd be interested to know who you think is, if any, the victim of the humour in a sketch such as this...


Sorry been busy for a little while.
Oi, ‘if any’?, cos’ you are asking this, there has to be something there for sure, good hint isn’t it :D
Thanks for dragging me into the world of racism! If I am getting the message right, Thailand ‘receives’ the greatest credit in the sketch but other Asians might feel to get involved as well. However, been once in Thailand (of course Pattaya lol), saw something myself also sure is Thai sees the state themselves and being open to it (ain’t they?), so I think the series are reasonably entertaining its audiences and any Thai watching this doesn’t have to be feeling irritated (hopefully they ain't).
Think racism against Asian is ‘softer’ and less controversial, not like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeFqPGhepj8 and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCk6fSQ2 ... re=related, way more blatant don’t you think?

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Postby unrevealed » Sat, 09 Apr 2011 7:59 pm

I like the make up of Ting Tong's hair and skin colour btw :D

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Apr 2011 8:11 pm

unrevealed wrote:
JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX58bjwIbiQ&playnext=1&list=PLF99D95346A324338

Ting Tong meets Ivanka


Hi UnR

I'd be interested to know who you think is, if any, the victim of the humour in a sketch such as this...


Sorry been busy for a little while.
Oi, ‘if any’?, cos’ you are asking this, there has to be something there for sure, good hint isn’t it :D
Thanks for dragging me into the world of racism! If I am getting the message right, Thailand ‘receives’ the greatest credit in the sketch but other Asians might feel to get involved as well. However, been once in Thailand (of course Pattaya lol), saw something myself also sure is Thai sees the state themselves and being open to it (ain’t they?), so I think the series are reasonably entertaining its audiences and any Thai watching this doesn’t have to be feeling irritated (hopefully they ain't).
Think racism against Asian is ‘softer’ and less controversial, not like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeFqPGhepj8

Makes a complete fool of a white British bigot

and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCk6fSQ2 ... re=related,

Makes a complete fool of a white British bigot

way more blatant don’t you think?


The target is the white British guy (naturally, this is the BBC!). Any other questions? :wink:

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Postby unrevealed » Sat, 09 Apr 2011 8:19 pm

Oh yes got it...you may say that, but not everyone sees it as the ONLY humour there.

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Apr 2011 8:33 pm

Well that's tough luck then isn't it really? There isn't some Universal Right To No One Ever Causing You Offence is there?

By the way what jokes do you poke at the Cambodians and Laotians? :)

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Postby unrevealed » Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:07 am

Haha ok I get it and you're totally right :D. Btw, when I say I don't like something being racist doesn't mean I can't bear it ;). Lucky enough sensitive themes can't stop me from viewing such comedies :d.
What a shame I can't pick up the jokes about those two. Would love to have your opinions if you're keen.

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 16 Apr 2011 5:06 pm

unrevealed wrote:Haha ok I get it and you're totally right :D. Btw, when I say I don't like something being racist doesn't mean I can't bear it ;). Lucky enough sensitive themes can't stop me from viewing such comedies :d.

The dictionary says that racism involves hate, intolerance and believing that you are superior to the other race/s. None of that is going on in Little Britain! It seems to me that in Asia people a lot of people are much more sensitive to race issues in public, but behind closed doors they are a lot more racist that you would commonly find in 'the west'. Hmmm...


What a shame I can't pick up the jokes about those two. Would love to have your opinions if you're keen.

Sorry, which two do you mean? Cambodia and Laos? No I was asking you, you are VNese aren't you?

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Postby unrevealed » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 2:46 pm

The dictionary says that racism involves hate, intolerance and believing that you are superior to the other race/s. None of that is going on in Little Britain! It seems to me that in Asia people a lot of people are much more sensitive to race issues in public, but behind closed doors they are a lot more racist that you would commonly find in 'the west'. Hmmm...


The thing is you invent one thing and put it your way but you can’t always expect people to judge it the same way. My life experience is not sufficient enough to raise my voice about your view that Asian people are actually more racist than what they prove to be in public but from my personal experience, I don’t see it happening strongly in my home country and in other Asian friends of mine. But I know you always have wise thoughts : )

Sorry, which two do you mean? Cambodia and Laos? No I was asking you, you are VNese aren't you?
Sorry I didn’t answer your question properly but yes, I meant Cambodia and Laos. I’m Vnese and geographically close to the two countries but I will have to let you down as I have never heard of jokes either in Vietnamese or English about those two.
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Sorry I don't know if it's ok to ask about visa issues here but by the way, do you happen to know if there is a possibility to cancel a visit pass (long-term) (approved but not yet completed the formalities) and resubmit in the future. ICA says on the website this one year long term visit pass is non-renewable but well there might be flexibility. I get the visa approved and a job offer at the same time so just don't want to waste the visa if it's not necessary to. Thank you.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 3:21 pm

As long as the visa is not issued/taken up, it's not a problem, but once it's actually issued, that's it.

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Postby unrevealed » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 3:43 pm

Thank you very much for the info but I will have to waste the visa if things with the company doesn't run quickly and smoothly (nothing done except for the offer) as my extended 30 day pass expires in the next few days. So without the long term visa, I will be kicked out of the country I suppose :) Edited --> in this case, sounds not really like a waste having the long term visa isn't it :D

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 6:53 pm

unrevealed wrote:The thing is you invent one thing and put it your way but you can’t always expect people to judge it the same way.

Well as I was suggesting earlier that is not the inventors problem is it? If there are people who judge it as a problem, then they can turn off their TV sets. I think you have to accept that in 'western' humour, quite often the joke is not just what is said or suggested, it is the very fact that what is said is pushing a boundary.

Take this as an example...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9pk3kcrFD0
Little Britain USA - Gym


My life experience is not sufficient enough to raise my voice about your view that Asian people are actually more racist than what they prove to be in public but from my personal experience, I don’t see it happening strongly in my home country and in other Asian friends of mine. But I know you always have wise thoughts : )

You mean 'I know JR8, you have an opinion on everything' :lol:. That's interesting, I mean every country jokes about it's neighbours. Americans about Mexicans and Canadians (and the rest). Brits about the Irish and Scottish. Germans about the Poles. And so on.
I think you're just being shy! :)


I can't really advise on visas. There are people much better able to as SMS has just done...


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