Like what SMS, all I'm saying is that the Bureau of Immigration tend to powertrip which can make it difficult for any overseas Filipino worker to leave the Philippines to return to their country of residence. I've forked off the main topic but I never trailed off very far when I did.ksl wrote:I find it quite remarkable that that not one of you on this thread have helped the OP get her maid out of Singapore!sundaymorningstaple wrote:Actually, you are missing/have missed the whole point. The PBI doesn't care whether she's got a work permit or not. If they "want" to bounce her, they will and there is SFA anybody can do about it. Nobody is saying that they will, but there's too many times that it has happened. She's not being prevented from going to the Philippines so once she steps foot on Philippines soil, she is no longer under Singapore's jurisdiction, holding a work permit or not, full stop. She is then at the mercy of the Philippines government.ksl wrote:Hello your missing the point, she's already been employed and between contract renewal she has a work permit.What happens in the Philippines hardly matters at this stage, the emergency is in the Philippines right! What barriers the Philippines government have implemented against maids is hardly the fault of the employer.Nakatago:@ksl, like I said. You don't argue with someone who doesn't use logic.
Don't bring a knife into a magic spells fight.
Or lets put it another way, by the time SMS and others figure it out, the emergency is over Do you really believe an experienced maid isn't aware of the risks,
Anyway lets hope that she is already in the Philippines while you all run around with excuses why it's not safe for her to return I'm sure you have helped her make her own mind up, that's for sure.
And Nakatago lets be truthful, if you had an emergency back in the Philippines how are you going to deal with it immediately not next week? Advise the woman instead of trying to rumble what i say. Though it does appear the OP is trying to circumvent the agency to do the contract with the embassy, it doesn't stop the maid returning in an emergency.
If the OP wants to employ her with the embassy contract, there is still no reason why it cannot be done, after she has left to attend the emergency if it means following the protocol so what! Isn't the priority the emergency here.
You want to know what I'll do in an emergency? I'll freakin' use an emergency leave, book my freakin' ticket back home and rush to the embassy to get that freakin' OEC telling them it's an emergency and I need that OEC in a jiffy. I'm a 'professional' so the embassy people will most probably take my word it, aside from having a good track record. And in an emergency, I don't just go off barging into the site. I keep a clear head and gather the information that I need, then I go off charging.
What about a maid? I don't know--never had one, never had second hand information about having one that's why I never made any claim that I have information on the procedure. All I said was just follow the whatever procedure the embassy gives. It may not make sense--which is most of the time, but just follow them and get it over with. What I'm saying is the possible hurdles any overseas Filipino worker of any pay grade may most likely encounter when leaving the Philippines.
You want first hand information from a maid? Look for maidinsing; it's times like this that we need her experience real bad. In her absence, all I could say is just freakin' call up the embassy, tell them that it's an emergency, ask them what is needed so the maid go back home and be able to return without immigration hassling her.