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Notarized/Certification apostil in Singapore?

Post by boffenl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 1:32 pm

Help! I need to get a legal document certification apostil here in Singapore, short of going to the Embassy in Jakarta, does anyone know of someplace in Singapore that can do a certification apostil?

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Post by Mad Scientist » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 1:45 pm

Look for Public Notary in the yellow pages or google.

Price varies from $25.00 to $200.00
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Post by nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 1:56 pm

I think I even saw somewhere that in Chinatown, it may be as low as five bucks. YMMV.
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Post by ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 2:04 pm

You need to shop around for price, otherwise you will get ripped off! Shouldn't be more than $300 max, you need a legal solicitor or lawyer in International Law, It's comparable to a domestic notarization, though on a International level and I would think more expensive than a local domestic notarization

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 2:39 pm

ksl wrote:You need to shop around for price, otherwise you will get ripped off! Shouldn't be more than $300 max, you need a legal solicitor or lawyer in International Law, It's comparable to a domestic notarization, though on a International level and I would think more expensive than a local domestic notarization
Just to illustrate things (for the benefit of our other viewers), I have an Australian friend who's selling property in Oz and needs a Justice of the Peace to sign some documents right away. Did a search in Singapore, found a retired justice (forgot exact title). He gave him a call, met and the justice signed the documents. Thirty bucks, valid notary.
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Post by ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 2:47 pm

nakatago wrote:
ksl wrote:You need to shop around for price, otherwise you will get ripped off! Shouldn't be more than $300 max, you need a legal solicitor or lawyer in International Law, It's comparable to a domestic notarization, though on a International level and I would think more expensive than a local domestic notarization
Just to illustrate things (for the benefit of our other viewers), I have an Australian friend who's selling property in Oz and needs a Justice of the Peace to sign some documents right away. Did a search in Singapore, found a retired justice (forgot exact title). He gave him a call, met and the justice signed the documents. Thirty bucks, valid notary.
Yes a good example, though for for commercial business, they are likely to screw the price up. Though yes you are right, for a one off non commercial notarization I would expect it not to be above $50 and I am sure many will do it for $30, or less.

I would walk in with tea (over my ) shirt and flip flops to get the cheapest price :lol: Go in a suit and a big smile and you are likely to pay a higher price. Sometimes being a westerner in business has a down side, so I send my Chinese wife, we live and learn :lol:

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 2:58 pm

ksl wrote:I would walk in with tea (over my ) shirt and flip flops to get the cheapest price :lol: Go in a suit and a big smile and you are likely to pay a higher price. Sometimes being a westerner in business has a down side, so I send my Chinese wife, we live and learn :lol:
Good tip! :lol:
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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 3:49 pm

nakatago wrote:I have an Australian friend who's selling property in Oz and needs a Justice of the Peace to sign some documents right away. Did a search in Singapore, found a retired justice (forgot exact title). He gave him a call, met and the justice signed the documents. Thirty bucks, valid notary.
A word of caution : in "Commonwealth countries" Justice of Peace doesn't have to be / mean a justice per-se .. :D :D

Google Justice of Peace for Commonwealth countries mean something else :D

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 3:59 pm

ecureilx wrote:
nakatago wrote:I have an Australian friend who's selling property in Oz and needs a Justice of the Peace to sign some documents right away. Did a search in Singapore, found a retired justice (forgot exact title). He gave him a call, met and the justice signed the documents. Thirty bucks, valid notary.
A word of caution : in "Commonwealth countries" Justice of Peace doesn't have to be / mean a justice per-se .. :D :D

Google Justice of Peace for Commonwealth countries mean something else :D
Yup; I'm gonna need several docs notarized.....just waiting for those docs to come to me!
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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 4:18 pm

nakatago wrote: Yup; I'm gonna need several docs notarized.....just waiting for those docs to come to me!
BTW, my gramps was a JP back home, and I dont' remember him ever being a justice :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_of ... #Singapore

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Post by boffenl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 4:19 pm

Thanks for the comments, but does anyone know of someone who does the certificate apostil in Singapore? I assume it has to have the fancy ribbons, right? US Embassy won't do it since it's not going to be used in the US. Help!

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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 4:26 pm

boffenl wrote:Thanks for the comments, but does anyone know of someone who does the certificate apostil in Singapore? I assume it has to have the fancy ribbons, right? US Embassy won't do it since it's not going to be used in the US. Help!
I am lost: are you in Singapore or JKT ? and are you submitting the documents to US or ???

If it is for use in UK/Commonwealth, a civil Lawyer/JP/Notary Public would suffice.

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 4:27 pm

boffenl wrote:Thanks for the comments, but does anyone know of someone who does the certificate apostil in Singapore? I assume it has to have the fancy ribbons, right? US Embassy won't do it since it's not going to be used in the US. Help!
Skimming through this and since IANAL: http://www.lawgazette.com.sg/2002-6/June02-feature2.htm

I found this:
The process of legalisation can be a cause of delay in international litigation and other transactions. As a result, there is an international treaty (ie the Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalisation for Foreign Public Documents 1961) to address this point.13 Under the treaty, public documents (which include notarial acts) that have been executed in the territory of a contracting state and which have to be produced in another contracting state do not need to be legalised. Instead, a simple certificate or 'apostille' in a prescribed form issued by the competent authority of the state from which the document originates will suffice (eg in the United Kingdom, it is the Foreign and Commonwealth Office).14 The United Kingdom and many other countries are parties to the treaty but Singapore is currently not a party.

However, Ord 41 r 12 of the Rules of Court 1996 states that:

A document purporting to have affixed or impressed thereon or subscribed thereto the seal or signature of a court, judge, notary public or person having authority to administer oaths in a Commonwealth country and in the case of any other country, the seal or signature of a consular officer of a Commonwealth country in testimony of an affidavit being taken before it or him shall be admitted in evidence without proof of the seal or signature being the seal or signature of that court, judge, notary public or person.

For documents falling outside the scope of Ord 41 r 12, the authority, seal and signature of the notary public or relevant public officer may need to be verified or legalised.

Authentication by the Singapore Academy of Law
For affidavits or documents executed before a Singapore notary public for use in a foreign country, the authority and signature of the Singapore notary public should be sent to the Singapore Academy of Law for authentication.15 At the Academy, an officer or an agent appointed by the Senate will verify the authority and signature of the Singapore notary public and give a certificate to that effect. All such certificates will then be sealed with the seal of the Academy as set out in the Second Schedule to the Singapore Academy of Law Act (Cap 294A).
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Post by boffenl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 4:31 pm

Oh crap--no use calling around to see who is cheapest if we'll have to wait to get the Law Society to sign it too. Anyone know of other Embassy's or Consulates who do this for non-natives?

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Post by metroguy » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 4:39 pm

There's a small law firm above my office that offer Notary Public service. Please PM me for their contact details. I paid $20 per copy last year.
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