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Postby nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 5:21 pm

ksl wrote:We use a 7 ltr one.


They come in that size?!? Isn't that, like, oh, I don't know--a boiler?

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 5:27 pm

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ksl wrote:We use a 7 ltr one.


They come in that size?!? Isn't that, like, oh, I don't know--a boiler?
well actually, we maybe thinking of two different things they look the same inside as a 1.4 ltr hot boiler flask, I would never call a kettle a hotpot maybe Americans do :-|

Though the 7 ltr os called a hot water dispenser it has 2 functions, one for boiling water and one side for warm water, basically it's just like an over sized vacuum flask, made in Taiwan.

Morries is the brand, but they sell out very fast, was thinking of bringing some in actually, as i was looking for a new one and couldn't find one. Ours is 3 years old, they are normally together with the small ones, if they have them.
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Postby nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 5:34 pm

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ksl wrote:We use a 7 ltr one.


They come in that size?!? Isn't that, like, oh, I don't know--a boiler?
well actually they look the same inside, though the 7 ltr has 2 functions, one for boiling water and one side for warm water, basically it's just like an over sized vacuum flask, made in Taiwan.

Morries is the brand, but they sell out very fast, was thinking of bringing some in actually, as i was looking for a new one and couldn't find one. Ours is 3 years old, they are normally together with the small ones, if they have them.


ah yes. I think I know what you mean...it's like a jumbo, double-tanked thermos that boils it's own water, aye? forgot about those since we stopped using them back in the eighties when electric kettles and microwave ovens became quite common.

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 5:38 pm

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ksl wrote:We use a 7 ltr one.


They come in that size?!? Isn't that, like, oh, I don't know--a boiler?
well actually they look the same inside, though the 7 ltr has 2 functions, one for boiling water and one side for warm water, basically it's just like an over sized vacuum flask, made in Taiwan.

Morries is the brand, but they sell out very fast, was thinking of bringing some in actually, as i was looking for a new one and couldn't find one. Ours is 3 years old, they are normally together with the small ones, if they have them.


ah yes. I think I know what you mean...it's like a jumbo, double-tanked thermos that boils it's own water, aye? forgot about those since we stopped using them back in the eighties when electric kettles and microwave ovens became quite common.
Yes your right, only most Chinese use them! I prefer the kettle for a brew any day.

Though Chinese are very superstitious when it comes to hot and cold and it shows in the food too! Taiwan use the flasks all the time as water isn't safe for drinking

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 5:43 pm

ksl wrote:Though Chinese are very superstitious when it comes to hot and cold and it shows in the food too!


I never did quite get into that drinking warm-just-below-boiling-water. Some say it helps prevent oil build up in your gut but your internal body temperature more-or-less stays the same anyway and even if it didn't, your gut will eventually warm up. It's the whole point of being warm-blooded creatures, us humans. And it's not as refreshing if you've been doing rigorous exercise or is very warm. I never knew about the superstition angle. I guess it just never came up and I never bothered.

Hmm, still don't. :P

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 5:45 pm

The hot-pots are more commonly called "air-pots" here in Singapore. And yeah, I've got a single flask type electric pump/manual pump one that hold 4 ltr. It's a cheapo. If you get one of the Japanese brands they can gouge you for around 180-200 which is ridiculous in my opinion. I think I paid 59 from mine, from NTUC. Works fine for what we use it for.

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 6:10 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:The hot-pots are more commonly called "air-pots" here in Singapore. And yeah, I've got a single flask type electric pump/manual pump one that hold 4 ltr. It's a cheapo. If you get one of the Japanese brands they can gouge you for around 180-200 which is ridiculous in my opinion. I think I paid 59 from mine, from NTUC. Works fine for what we use it for.
Yes about right in price our 7 ltr was around 75, I think it was.

Chinese have many superstitions, though I'm like Nakatago when it comes to it. Cold ice has never done me any harm, apart from when i get too greedy and eat it to fast, then it hurts right up through the nostrils.

My in laws don't allow their kids to have cold or hot, which makes their bodies quite weak in my opinion. The Chinese think the opposite, also with sport, running is bad, taichi is good, though Asian bone structure is different to western, you can see that with the original toilets, many Westerners cannot just squat, because the ankle joints are different I think it's a genetic adaptation from hereditary rice picking generations ago, Asians can actually squat very easy, and in UK they hire them for strawberry season as they can actually squat for hrs and walk while squatting no offence meant! My daughter however who is half Chinese cannot squat, and mummy thinks that funny, all to their own. (useless information i know, but its free) :D

I've run and done sport for 40 years and I must admit, my bearings are wearing out a little now, my shoulder joints a little painful and kneecaps a little dull ache, but I can still keep going, with lots of ice cream and coke :lol: Though the weight is a minor problem :lol:
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Postby JR8 » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 6:22 pm

ksl wrote:I've run and done sport for 40 years and I must admit, my bearings are wearing out a little now, my shoulder joints a little painful and kneecaps a little dull ache, but I can still keep going, with lots of ice cream and coke :lol: Though the weight is a problem :lol:


Yeah coke keeps me going too. Though after leaving Bolivia one does resent having to pay so much for it.

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 6:32 pm

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ksl wrote:I've run and done sport for 40 years and I must admit, my bearings are wearing out a little now, my shoulder joints a little painful and kneecaps a little dull ache, but I can still keep going, with lots of ice cream and coke :lol: Though the weight is a problem :lol:


Yeah coke keeps me going too. Though after leaving Bolivia one does resent having to pay so much for it.
Diet Coke is actually a gimmick if you didn't know, the sweetness used will trigger insulin spikes, and you will gain a lot of weight if not exercising.

My sister drank 3 ltrs every day for years, mostly at night with her brandy, and put on around 80kg...she's been off the drink for a year and lost the weight too.

Ice cream is my weakness, so I rarely want it in the house unless she buys me a Barons. So I have to keep reminding my wife to refrain from buying crappy nice food, becuase i will eat it, after several warnings i will put it all in the bin! 8-) bad habits in moderation, I like :lol:

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 6:37 pm

You seem to have started early today mate :wink:

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 7:21 pm

JR8 wrote:You seem to have started early today mate :wink:
You guessed i have 5 days of freedom, though I'm going for a run first to burn some calories :lol:
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Postby BillyB » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 9:16 pm

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ksl wrote:I wonder why they haven't used solar panels for hot water yet :???: I though HDB was thinking of doing some project with solar panels, though i would expect it on a condo at least. Though my expectations are quite demanding I don't always get what i want :)


You'll never get full agreement from all owners at a condo because Landlord owners just don't want to fork out the cash to pay for it, absolutely no finance benefit to them as they don't pay the utility bills. The same for new builds as well.


I'm gonna sound really sad by saying this but I saw grand designs on the box the other night and a couple in the U.K had a new house built and installed all sorts of power generating bits and pieces like solar and other stuff that I don't understand.

They created too much electricity for their house to use and sold the excess back to the local power companies and will receive on average 1800 GBP per year from it. I thought that was a great business idea!!!

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 9:31 pm

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ksl wrote:I wonder why they haven't used solar panels for hot water yet :???: I though HDB was thinking of doing some project with solar panels, though i would expect it on a condo at least. Though my expectations are quite demanding I don't always get what i want :)


You'll never get full agreement from all owners at a condo because Landlord owners just don't want to fork out the cash to pay for it, absolutely no finance benefit to them as they don't pay the utility bills. The same for new builds as well.


I'm gonna sound really sad by saying this but I saw grand designs on the box the other night and a couple in the U.K had a new house built and installed all sorts of power generating bits and pieces like solar and other stuff that I don't understand.

They created too much electricity for their house to use and sold the excess back to the local power companies and will receive on average 1800 GBP per year from it. I thought that was a great business idea!!!
They have been doing that in Denmark since 1979 that i know of, people build the wind mill on their property and sell off the excess energy to the grid, others make a cooperative investment and sell the excess to the grid, solar energy is also used. Also tax relief is available in some countries for making investment. A good job for installation engineers travelling the world.

Vestas who make the wind mills are in Viborg Denmark http://www.vestas.com/

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Postby BillyB » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 9:38 pm

ksl wrote:
BillyB wrote:
Saint wrote:
ksl wrote:I wonder why they haven't used solar panels for hot water yet :???: I though HDB was thinking of doing some project with solar panels, though i would expect it on a condo at least. Though my expectations are quite demanding I don't always get what i want :)


You'll never get full agreement from all owners at a condo because Landlord owners just don't want to fork out the cash to pay for it, absolutely no finance benefit to them as they don't pay the utility bills. The same for new builds as well.


I'm gonna sound really sad by saying this but I saw grand designs on the box the other night and a couple in the U.K had a new house built and installed all sorts of power generating bits and pieces like solar and other stuff that I don't understand.

They created too much electricity for their house to use and sold the excess back to the local power companies and will receive on average 1800 GBP per year from it. I thought that was a great business idea!!!
They have been doing that in Denmark since 1979 that i know of, people build the wind mill on their property and sell off the excess energy to the grid, others make a cooperative investment and sell the excess to the grid, solar energy is also used. Also tax relief is available in some countries for making investment. A good job for installation engineers travelling the world.

Vestas who make the wind mills are in Viborg Denmark http://www.vestas.com/


Sh*t, I missed the boat there by 30 odd years!! Thought it was quite innovative myself!! :oops:

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:24 pm

BillyB wrote:
ksl wrote:
BillyB wrote:
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ksl wrote:I wonder why they haven't used solar panels for hot water yet :???: I though HDB was thinking of doing some project with solar panels, though i would expect it on a condo at least. Though my expectations are quite demanding I don't always get what i want :)


You'll never get full agreement from all owners at a condo because Landlord owners just don't want to fork out the cash to pay for it, absolutely no finance benefit to them as they don't pay the utility bills. The same for new builds as well.


I'm gonna sound really sad by saying this but I saw grand designs on the box the other night and a couple in the U.K had a new house built and installed all sorts of power generating bits and pieces like solar and other stuff that I don't understand.

They created too much electricity for their house to use and sold the excess back to the local power companies and will receive on average 1800 GBP per year from it. I thought that was a great business idea!!!
They have been doing that in Denmark since 1979 that i know of, people build the wind mill on their property and sell off the excess energy to the grid, others make a cooperative investment and sell the excess to the grid, solar energy is also used. Also tax relief is available in some countries for making investment. A good job for installation engineers travelling the world.

Vestas who make the wind mills are in Viborg Denmark http://www.vestas.com/


Sh*t, I missed the boat there by 30 odd years!! Thought it was quite innovative myself!! :oops:
It's the other countries that have missed the boat for some reason, many governments find the wind mills destroy the landscape, though if you have your own farm land in UK it's a good investment the villagers can share in. SMS ranch for example may need it, if he's miles from anywhere.

You can disconnect a small village from the grid, if you produce your own electric and get tax relief on the investment. Though council approval is needed too I suspect, there maybe also eco friendly development grants available too, if you search a countries grant system. This is a nice little earner for the innovative entrepreneurs. I'm on the look out for double glaze noise reduction windows, without heat preservation, this could also be a hot product in Singapore as the noise pollution is quite bad! So if there are any entrepreneurs interested let me know, lot of research to cover.


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