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Post by revhappy » Sun, 29 May 2011 9:34 am

Thanks SMS, so that clears the tax liability issue

She started working in Mar 2010 and earned more than 20k and > 183 days that year and we have already filed the returns for FY 2010 and its processed and waiting for the Notice of Assessment.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 29 May 2011 12:13 pm

FYI, when she files the IR-21, the tax assessment, if not already paid for YE 2010, will be included as due on the statement from IRAS. So, if she hasn't paid the assessment yet, and she's filing the Tax Clearance shortly, her tax bill will show up there and will have to be paid then.

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Post by revhappy » Sun, 29 May 2011 12:59 pm

Oh IC. Thanks, will keep that in mind and sort it out before she leaves.

Thanks again. :)

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Post by ecureilx » Sun, 29 May 2011 3:31 pm

my 2 cents: if she is not gonna cancel her DP, she has no fear to think if IRAS will harass her ..

And, while a few preach fear of falling foul of IRAS, as long as you, the husband, is in Singapore, fret not .. let them come with their assesment and then you pay accordingly, and tell IRAS that your wife is not in Singapore..

Again, fret not ..

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 29 May 2011 4:32 pm

Here, we try to advise, based on the laws of the land, and not what can be gotten away with. .......
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Post by ecureilx » Sun, 29 May 2011 4:54 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Here, we try to advise, based on the laws of the land, and not what can be gotten away with. .......
And in this case, the husband can always be held ransom :D :D :D

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Post by Mad Scientist » Sun, 29 May 2011 6:19 pm

ecureilx wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Here, we try to advise, based on the laws of the land, and not what can be gotten away with. .......
And in this case, the husband can always be held ransom :D :D :D
If I am not wrong, personal taxes owing to IRAS is based on the individual person itself not the responsibility of the spouse, family, children or next of kin, The onus to settle any outstanding tax fall onto the individual itself.
The husband will not be made accountable under the law.
I am really concern that your comment might be misunderstood by other readers. Please restrain from this kind of approach or comment even though you might find it humorous as this is something serious and it should be advise appropriately.

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Post by ecureilx » Sun, 29 May 2011 7:09 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:Please restrain from this kind of approach or comment even though you might find it humorous as this is something serious and it should be advise appropriately.

Peace !!
From what I know, and have helped for some people departing Singapore, and am trying to find the email communications with IRAS in this regard, a spouse is /was allowed to cover for the partner's tax responsibility, if they had to leave Singapore before seeking clearence .. I am sure of it, and I am trying to find the info ..

But it didn't extend parents, siblings, and friends ...

Then again, I was advising people who were honest enough and had proper moral fiber, to not to shirk from their responsibilities, unlike a lot of people I see and hear, who have no qualms about leaving behind tax dues, phone bills, and rental arrears ..

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Post by revhappy » Sun, 29 May 2011 10:18 pm

Thanks again guys, yupp the intent is to fully comply with laws and pay the tax in full well before the due date.

In any case, the amount of tax, if any, will be peanuts and certainly not worth risking our careers and life here :)

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Post by Mad Scientist » Mon, 30 May 2011 4:05 am

ecureilx wrote:
Mad Scientist wrote:Please restrain from this kind of approach or comment even though you might find it humorous as this is something serious and it should be advise appropriately.

Peace !!
From what I know, and have helped for some people departing Singapore, and am trying to find the email communications with IRAS in this regard, a spouse is /was allowed to cover for the partner's tax responsibility, if they had to leave Singapore before seeking clearence .. I am sure of it, and I am trying to find the info ..

But it didn't extend parents, siblings, and friends ...

Then again, I was advising people who were honest enough and had proper moral fiber, to not to shirk from their responsibilities, unlike a lot of people I see and hear, who have no qualms about leaving behind tax dues, phone bills, and rental arrears ..
Here is the reply from IRAS

Personal Tax Filing Due Date:

It is mandatory under law to file for the annual personal tax return to IRAS by 15 April 2011. IRAS diligently enforces the requirements relating to the filing of the personal tax. Please comply to avoid paying fines and/or court prosecution.

Income is assessed on a preceding calendar year basis, ending 31 December. You must File Your Annual Tax Form by 15 April of the following year. If tax return is not filed by the 15 April deadline, IRAS may raise estimated assessment. You can usually expect to receive the income tax bills from May to August.

Settlement of Personal tax liability:

Paying your taxes: Sign up for the 12-month interests free GIRO Deduction Plan to pay your income tax by instalments. Otherwise, full payment has to be made within one month from the date of the income tax bill.

If the tax is not paid by the due date, a 5% penalty and 1% additional penalty per month up to 12% (total of 17%) will be imposed. In addition, IRAS may take recovery action.

Impose an additional penalty of 1% up to a maximum of 12% on any unpaid tax for each month that the tax remains unpaid;
Direct the taxpayer’s employer to deduct any unpaid tax from his salary;
Direct the taxpayer’s banks, tenants or any third parties to pay any unpaid tax to IRAS from any money held for the taxpayer or due to him;
Restrict the taxpayer from leaving Singapore
Take legal actions against the taxpayer.


I had them corresponded this to me and I extract ited out to share with others. This is the same problem with my wife when we moved/migrate overseas. As she was a former director of one of my companies albeit sleeping partner. I used her name to pay her directors fee to reduce the company tax which is entirely legal.
When she resigned from the company , IRAS still assess her under estimated income although she is no longer with the company. Even though she has migrated overseas, the Estimated Income Assessment followed her. The problem is she failed to submit her last zero income prior the move. When they cannot locate her in SG, IRAS appointed 4 banks as a Tax Recovery Agents to recover those monies owed although she has already resigned prior to the migration
She had to fight tooth and nail to get those tax off her which she did after numerous phone calls to IRAS as the amount estimated was $35K.
Not a single word states the spouse is responsible from the above correspondent. Everything written above is directed to the individual.
This is the law and no one is above the law hence my earlier post
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Post by ausinsg » Sat, 04 Jun 2011 5:35 am

I just read through this whole thread. I wonder if the problem initially faced by Nath21's wife is the policy of not extending an SVP after you have ended your EP. I am unsure if it is official or not, but I was previously told that after handing in your EP and getting an SVP it cannot be extended and you need to return home.

This policy when viewed in isolation would explain the behaviour of ICA.

However it would be nice to think the broader context of the husband being due to depart less than a month afterwards would have triggered a more compassionate assessment of the situation.

Just my thoughts.

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