Sinagaporean degree marry to a work permit

wahaha2 · Post by **wahaha2** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:21 am

Hi all, i have read lots lots of forum. Till i got lost.
I would like to seek advise from those ppl that been through it before.

I`m a degree holder and fall in love with a malaysia work permit worker.
All my silbing are also degree holder.
2 of her siling are also degree holder. 1 is not

Problem is:
My want-to-be women is much much older then me. And will be divorce soon. She has 2 kids at home. <10yrs old. In which i do not need to take care as her family member will take care of them.
She is lowly educated. and holds less then 1000k per mth
i currently hold more then 3K per mth should be able to prove that i can take care of her?
I`m thinking of once she got divoce, i will seek approve from MOM to get ROM. Upon ROM, she will continue to work till she get pregent then quit the job. While i will apply Long term pass for her.
Do you all think that i have good chance of all this happening?

i have been under high stress recently. I hope to see some lights...

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:51 am

As far as you and her are concerned, your income level is sufficient however the problem is that she MUST get permission from the MoM to marry. If they do not give her permission, you can still marry, but then ICA will not give her an LTVP and she will not be able to get PR. This is regardless of her families educational background.

If she is not given permission and you marry her anyway, in all probability, her WP will not be renewed and once her visa runs out, you will have to immigrate to Malaysia if you want to stay together. If they do give permission, you are home free. Chances? No idea. If she Malaysian Chinese your odds are better than zero.

So the first thing you need to do is apply to the MoM for permission to marry. After that, then you can make plans or alternative plans.

wahaha2 · Post by **wahaha2** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:05 pm

i need to plan well....

i do not want to make any smallest mistake in which she can`t stay in singapore...

I did think of the worse whereby i be malaysian PR... things will make much more easier.. But i wanted to stay with my parents in singapore... i can`t leave them here either... i`m stuck in between...

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 1:37 pm

wahaha2 wrote:i need to plan well....

i do not want to make any smallest mistake in which she can`t stay in singapore...

I did think of the worse whereby i be malaysian PR... things will make much more easier.. But i wanted to stay with my parents in singapore... i can`t leave them here either... i`m stuck in between...

Mate, getting Malaysian PR is far more difficult than finding a dinosaur's bone !!! If you think SG PR application is hard, wait till you try Malaysia PR application !!! You will never know if your application ever manage to move from one table to another within a year.

I go with SMS first but don't get her pregnant until you get MOM permission and ROM in Singapore. Go with LTSVP. This WILL BE THE SMALLEST MISTAKE YOU CAN MAKE by getting her pregnant. Do not count your chicken until it is hatch.
IMHO if you wish to adopt your step children and apply under family will be better. Of course you should custodial rights of your step children to make it more genuine in the eyes of ICA

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 1:48 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:
wahaha2 wrote:i need to plan well....

i do not want to make any smallest mistake in which she can`t stay in singapore...

I did think of the worse whereby i be malaysian PR... things will make much more easier.. But i wanted to stay with my parents in singapore... i can`t leave them here either... i`m stuck in between...

I go with SMS

Hehehehe.... oh rully?

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 2:23 pm

ecureilx · Post by **ecureilx** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 2:35 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:Mate, getting Malaysian PR is far more difficult than finding a dinosaur's bone !!! If you think SG PR application is hard, wait till you try Malaysia PR application !!! You will never know if your application ever manage to move from one table to another within a year.

Well, I am gonna dispute you again Chief

In Malaysia, you can fast-track your PR, if you marry a muslim/convert to muslim .. no racial overtones here, but a couple of my friends working in Malaysia, both married malaysians, the first - of Indian origin, and the second, of Malay origin - the second got it within a month of his conversion/marriage (apparently it was a one day thing to convert ..

)and the first, who earns more than 100,000 RM a month, plus put up in Damansara Heights - is yet to even get called for an interview, despite immense efforts from their company's Bumi partner and even sponsoring a BN social service program ... no kidding .....

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 2:57 pm

So it looks to me that there isn't a dispute. Just the occasional blip that somehow landed on the right desk initially. Too many anecdotal stories of the former and not enough of the latter. We've had them on here before as well (several years ago) so it's not a new problem.

ecureilx · Post by **ecureilx** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 3:12 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:So it looks to me that there isn't a dispute. Just the occasional blip that somehow landed on the right desk initially. Too many anecdotal stories of the former and not enough of the latter. We've had them on here before as well (several years ago) so it's not a new problem.

you mean the succesfull case was the mistake here ??

Malaysia, Truly Asia !!!!

But, last I heard, Malaysia is changing immigration laws, targetted at foreign men marrying Malaysian Women, essentially ensuring that the marriage was not a marriage of convenience .. not that they have been easy on granting residency before ..

Of course, MM2H is always there .. (Malaysia, My 2nd Home .. )

Pay up and get it ..

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Fri, 25 Mar 2011 4:33 pm

ecureilx wrote: Well, I am gonna dispute you again Chief

In Malaysia, you can fast-track your PR, if you marry a muslim/convert to muslim .. no racial overtones here, but a couple of my friends working in Malaysia, both married malaysians, the first - of Indian origin, and the second, of Malay origin - the second got it within a month of his conversion/marriage (apparently it was a one day thing to convert .. )and the first, who earns more than 100,000 RM a month, plus put up in Damansara Heights - is yet to even get called for an interview, despite immense efforts from their company's Bumi partner and even sponsoring a BN social service program ... no kidding .....

I lived for quite a good number of years in KL, Seberang Prai and Kemaman. I applied PR for 5 years during my stay there and it was still at the first table in Wisma Perseketuan officer. It was never approve as I do not belief in kickbacks hence my application was not entertain.
The last time I read from The Star, they have backlogged of PR application since the 70s, if I am not wrong about 30K. Last year the only managed to clear 10K. The MD of Philip JVC in Selangor needed 10 years to get his PR approved. The ruse of Banglas/Indons marrying local Muslim girls just to get PR are well publicise in the paper . So I do not think if you marry a Muslim you can get PR easily

wahaha2 · Post by **wahaha2** » Sat, 26 Mar 2011 6:26 pm

i would like to ask if..

upon giving birth... she has the Long term pass

can i cancel the long term pass and apply for work permit for her?
once the child is given birth and after few more mths when she is better?

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 9:04 am

wahaha2 wrote:i would like to ask if..

upon giving birth... she has the Long term pass

can i cancel the long term pass and apply for work permit for her?
once the child is given birth and after few more mths when she is better?

I am not understanding your question hence I am taking a wild guess here.

If you have been given permission to marry by MOM and approved LTSVP by ICA, yes she can give birth here. Child will be a Sger since you are one.
To get employment yes she has to go to MOM to apply for WP. as you cannot gain employment under LTSVP

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37 am

First of all, she needs to get permission to marry from MOM.

Secondly, IF she gets permission to marry, you get married, have a child, and then she want to return to the work force, no problem. Doesn't matter if she's on an LTVP as the employer has to apply for the Work Permit, not your wife. If successful, the LTVP will be automatically canceled when the WP is issued.

Right now, you just have to worry about getting permission from MOM. Everything else is contingent on that ONE thing. Don't worry about the rest until that is sorted or not.

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