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Postby revhappy » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 2:29 pm

Isn't the jobless rate in SG very low? Something like 2%? So where are the locals who can replace the cheap foreign workers. I agree with KSL, if a company cant afford the increased levies, they will have look at setting up shop across the causeway.

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Postby aster » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 6:27 pm

Saint wrote:Especially those P1 holders with no recognised qualifications!


I thought they don't care about qualifications if someone gets a salary that puts them in the P1 category?

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Postby Saint » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 6:53 pm

aster wrote:
Saint wrote:Especially those P1 holders with no recognised qualifications!


I thought they don't care about qualifications if someone gets a salary that puts them in the P1 category?


But what happens if a current P1 holder earning $7,100 who has no qualification? When the new threshold of $8k comes in and the person's salary hasn't increased above $8k, on renewal of the EP they will now fall into the P2 category which requires recognised qualifications. What happens then?

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Postby revhappy » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 7:45 pm

Saint wrote:
aster wrote:
Saint wrote:Especially those P1 holders with no recognised qualifications!


I thought they don't care about qualifications if someone gets a salary that puts them in the P1 category?


But what happens if a current P1 holder earning $7,100 who has no qualification? When the new threshold of $8k comes in and the person's salary hasn't increased above $8k, on renewal of the EP they will now fall into the P2 category which requires recognised qualifications. What happens then?


I dont really think these requirements are words etched on stone and instead they would use their judgement.

If you read the MOM website, from the kind of language used you get that impression

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... tions.aspx

Similarly, applicants who do not possess a recognised qualification may not necessarily be rejected for Employment Pass, if he possesses other compensating factors


Also this page:
http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

Note the usage "Examples of Eligibility Criteria"

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:17 pm

But, let's face it guys, all these new measures are designed to do just one thing. That is to reduce the expat population. We already know, from experience that they have tightened up the criteria for S pass holder to the point that if you don't have a technical degree, you can almost be assured of rejection of renewal "based on new criteria" as I've had 4 times now since Sep 09. I've also had rejection based on distance learning degrees. If you fall outside of one category, you can bet that they will stringently look at the qualifications because if you made it through the 7K barrier and within 2 more years (if they allow the renewal for 2 years as they have indicated, that will mean 3 years at over 7K without making it to at least 8K. They would have to wonder if the employee might have been overpaid and therefore is expendable due to the fact that (s)he's not even getting substantial raised.

Will be interesting to see. Wee have had some of our regulars who were already downgraded on renewal (with the same salaries) this past year (asdracles for example).

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Postby revhappy » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:15 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Will be interesting to see. Wee have had some of our regulars who were already downgraded on renewal (with the same salaries) this past year (asdracles for example).


I managed to fish out that post by Adracles and then remembered having read it before. You have a good memory,SMS, inspite of having to go through almost every post on this forum. :)

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Postby morenangpinay » Sun, 13 Mar 2011 1:00 pm

It's going to be a big problem for small companies like ours. Our company opened jobs for locals but unfortunately its either they don't show up for interviews or they ask too many requirements like how many working days/hours, asking for a high salary when they are currently unemployed..

Seriously I dread the day everytime we have a job opening.

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Postby nakatago » Sun, 13 Mar 2011 1:09 pm

morenangpinay wrote:It's going to be a big problem for small companies like ours. Our company opened jobs for locals but unfortunately its either they don't show up for interviews or they ask too many requirements like how many working days/hours, asking for a high salary when they are currently unemployed..

Seriously I dread the day everytime we have a job opening.


Then let's the market decide...

That's the problem with people who have a false sense of entitlement.

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Postby morenangpinay » Sun, 13 Mar 2011 1:28 pm

when i get questions like those, I am tempted to say..are you looking for a job or are you applying to be the next contestant for The Price is right! i should practice my bob barker voice.

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Postby ksl » Sun, 13 Mar 2011 1:52 pm

morenangpinay wrote:when i get questions like those, I am tempted to say..are you looking for a job or are you applying to be the next contestant for The Price is right! i should practice my bob barker voice.
The locals i know are looking for 2400 without qualifications, one i know just makes it but must work overtime every saturday, he's doing air conditioning, cleaning and fitting though he's home every day at 6.30.

They normally want to be home with the kids if the wife is working late, so it's kind of working around the family life. To pay for a maid is also expensive to look after the children, so go figure. Not so bad if they have no family.


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