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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 9:58 pm

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or6v wrote:Hi, I am reading the forum and most of the applicatant are P1 ans P2 whch they have a higher salary. Does anyony knows got the PEP from q1 working 5 years plus and maintaining the salary of 30K/year.

I just want to know coz I am qualified for this I worked for almost 7 years as Q1 and maintaning the salary of 30K/yearly. I have one dependant's currently.

If I applied for this what do you think would be the outcome at this period? And I neve heard anyone hear got the PEP from this level..

Please advise...


Based on what u have said mostly likely you would get it.good luck


I think SF is mistaken... you need to show S$8000 per month to qualify for a PEP. You can earn less after you get the PEP but must demonstrate a higher amount to qualify.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:19 pm

Let me as you a question.....

Put yourself in the gubmint position. Would you want an individual who is still only drawing an income of $30K/year after 7 years? Doesn't seem like too much "desirable" talent does it? Frankly speaking, I don't see it happening. But again, that is only my POV so don't let that stop you from trying. The worst that can happen is that you are rejected. Lot's of people have received the letter saying no, but you are welcome to stay here on your EP and continue to work here.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. But try to look at it objectively from the gubmint POV on an island with limited space. I would imagine they would want the most bang for the cubic meter of space used.


edited due to the damn bloody contractions not being able to keep up with my fingers! AGAIN!
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:22 pm

SE, not quite. Long term lower pass holder can also qualify..

Former P1 Pass holders who are residing overseas
Former P1 Pass holders should not be unemployed for longer than a continuous period of six months at the point of application.


P1 Pass holders


P2 Pass holders
P2 Pass holders that have worked on a P2 pass in Singapore for at least two years. They should have earned a fixed salary of at least $30,000 in the preceding year.


Q1 Pass holders
Q1 Pass holders that have worked on a Q1 pass in Singapore for at least five years. They should have earned a fixed salary of at least $30,000 in the preceding year.


http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

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Postby singaporeflyer » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:31 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:SE, not quite. Long term lower pass holder can also qualify..

Former P1 Pass holders who are residing overseas
Former P1 Pass holders should not be unemployed for longer than a continuous period of six months at the point of application.


P1 Pass holders


P2 Pass holders
P2 Pass holders that have worked on a P2 pass in Singapore for at least two years. They should have earned a fixed salary of at least $30,000 in the preceding year.


Q1 Pass holders
Q1 Pass holders that have worked on a Q1 pass in Singapore for at least five years. They should have earned a fixed salary of at least $30,000 in the preceding year.


http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx


I was just reading up on PEP for the past few months and that is why i said he might get it.. Also they might look at his reasonably long term stay i in SG, and might grant him PEP? Not sure..just my 2 cents

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Postby or6v » Fri, 15 Apr 2011 7:32 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
or6v wrote:Hi, I am reading the forum and most of the applicatant are P1 ans P2 whch they have a higher salary. Does anyony knows got the PEP from q1 working 5 years plus and maintaining the salary of 30K/year.

I just want to know coz I am qualified for this I worked for almost 7 years as Q1 and maintaning the salary of 30K/yearly. I have one dependant's currently.

If I applied for this what do you think would be the outcome at this period? And I neve heard anyone hear got the PEP from this level..

Please advise...


Based on what u have said mostly likely you would get it.good luck


Thanks Singaporeflyer.

Shall I wait till the election is over?

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Postby YankStuckinSuiss » Fri, 06 Apr 2012 3:41 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:No, you can't say that. You are NOT equal to a PR or Citizen. In fact, you will probably be paid more than a local would command in the first place. Oh, a recruiter will already know a heck of a lot more about it than you do. I can vouch for that. Remember, it's their business. Of course, it could very well work in the reverse for you but most don't think about it. If you cannot find a job within 6 months, you are stuffed, Additionally, you could easily find yourself in a somewhat peculiar predicament of employers offering you less once you have a PEP. :o

If you think about it, with jobs tightening up, and costs being reigned in, an employer might think, "I know he only needs to earn $30/K year in order to keep his PEP. While I would like to have him, he's not really an essential must have, but a 'would be nice to have if I could get him at a reasonable cost". He might then only offer you, say 5K/mo. if you are getting close to 6 months. Eight months left? Say 4K/mo. Has he knows you only need 30K to keep the PEP. So, the PEP, depending on the market and how the ground keeps pushing the gahmen, you could find that the PEP could be a millstone as well. Additionally, it's a one-time Pass and if you lose it, for whatever reason, it's gone. Forever. So it would be good to think seriously about it.

My POV as a headhunter and an HR Manager.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Apr 2012 4:28 pm

Sorry, bro! I don't deliberately set out to ruin people days, but I do tend to call it like I see it. And after 30 years here, I've 'bout see it all.

People fail to realize something about the Singapore Government (and I'll spell out gubmint in this case). They are smart. They don't do anything without leaving a bolt hole somewhere just in case they find things didn't work out quite as planned, and they want to crawfish outta their predicament. Look at any government website for regulations and rules, they always word them in a way that leaves space for future interpretation. All of the MOM site is that way. They leave themselves room to do end runs around what's published if it's somebody they want or need. At the same time all the "criteria" is open to interpretation so that they can tighten or loosen at will. They will never give reasons for their decisions (US immigration is the same in that regard) as, doing so, limits their ability to turn on a dime. It would also cost more in manpower having to deal with legal thrusts as well by disgruntled folks. This way, their words it final.

I had one wife, two kids, and three cars while living here for 11 years on a bog standard 30 SVP (no 90 days visas in those days). I was rejected for PR back in 1988 (but was working offshore still at that time so didn't actually work here, but my family are Singaporean), I applied again back in 1991 after obtaining my first EP, no dice. I applied again in 1994 and was granted PR based on family ties. Been there, done that, as the sayin' goes.

What I dispense here is a very strong dose of reality. Unfortunately, some feathers occasionally get ruffled! :lol:

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Postby YankStuckinSuiss » Fri, 06 Apr 2012 4:36 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Sorry, bro! I don't deliberately set out to ruin people days, but I do tend to call it like I see it. And after 30 years here, I've 'bout see it all.

People fail to realize something about the Singapore Government (and I'll spell out gubmint in this case). They are smart. They don't do anything without leaving a bolt hole somewhere just in case they find things didn't work out quite as planned, and they want to crawfish outta their predicament. Look at any government website for regulations and rules, they always word them in a way that leaves space for future interpretation. All of the MOM site is that way. They leave themselves room to do end runs around what's published if it's somebody they want or need. At the same time all the "criteria" is open to interpretation so that they can tighten or loosen at will. They will never give reasons for their decisions (US immigration is the same in that regard) as, doing so, limits their ability to turn on a dime. It would also cost more in manpower having to deal with legal thrusts as well by disgruntled folks. This way, their words it final.

I had one wife, two kids, and three cars while living here for 11 years on a bog standard 30 SVP (no 90 days visas in those days). I was rejected for PR back in 1988 (but was working offshore still at that time so didn't actually work here, but my family are Singaporean), I applied again back in 1991 after obtaining my first EP, no dice. I applied again in 1994 and was granted PR based on family ties. Been there, done that, as the sayin' goes.

What I dispense here is a very strong dose of reality. Unfortunately, some feathers occasionally get ruffled! :lol:


well don't get me wrong, I appreciate your input, it has been useful I just hope I don't get a PEP and get SCREWED First though, I have to get the PEP. I'm still waiting for a decision.
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