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Postby Ra5AU » Mon, 28 Mar 2011 5:30 pm

Thanks SMS,

I didn't understand "If you income is less than 8K/year basic salary without any allowances, then maybe you would have a chance".

My base salary is 7500 per month when converted to Sing Dollar but net per month is less with deductions. But again annual salary including bonus and other benefits will go higher.

Do you think I have a chance with elections and all.

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Postby Ra5AU » Mon, 28 Mar 2011 5:35 pm

Hi SF,

Sorry, I got it work with my signature that is why I deleted it (I meant I was new to forums).

I have over 10 years work exp in banking.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Mar 2011 6:00 pm

Ra5AU wrote:Thanks SMS,

I didn't understand "If you income is less than 8K/year basic salary without any allowances, then maybe you would have a chance".

My base salary is 7500 per month when converted to Sing Dollar but net per month is less with deductions. But again annual salary including bonus and other benefits will go higher.

Do you think I have a chance with elections and all.


With effect of 1 July (I think) the minimum for a P1 Pass will be raised to 8K/a month before deduction. It would stand to reason that the PEP, which currently follows the same basic formula, will increase as well. For those that fall in the middle that are rejected, I am guessing that MOM is preempting the start date and moving it forward. I might be wrong but the gap is closing and they may well be just stalling for time in order to eliminate as many as possible.

As you know, it's been pretty rough here for the past 18 months since Sept 09 and will be at the minimum til after the elections (date of which is still unknown. Frankly, I, personally, don't think your chances are good at all. But, stranger things have happened.

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Postby or6v » Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:34 pm

Are you suggesting that in applying for PEP also needs to wait until he election is over?

Another question, my wife just got the approval of her S pass but the IPA is still pending for almost a month, what do you think is the reason?

An let us say i apply for PEP and put her on my dependant's will she be approved or will cause any problem with her current status of her S Pass pending IPA?

Anyway I am Q1 for 6 years and with a solury of 30K plus in a year.

Any comments please anyone...

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 6:56 am

How can you have an approved S pass and an IPA that is pending? If the IPA is pending then the S pass is not yet approved.

As far as being Q pass holder, yeah, you have well enough time in grade and the current salary is okay as well. So give it a try. What's the worst that can happen? You continue to be on a Q1 pass.

I'm curious though, why hasn't your wife been on a dependent's pass?

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Postby or6v » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 8:11 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:How can you have an approved S pass and an IPA that is pending? If the IPA is pending then the S pass is not yet approved.

As far as being Q pass holder, yeah, you have well enough time in grade and the current salary is okay as well. So give it a try. What's the worst that can happen? You continue to be on a Q1 pass.

I'm curious though, why hasn't your wife been on a dependent's pass?


Approved S Pass because that is what is written in the online status and once it is approved then they have to give the IPA when the employer followed up they said the IPA sis pending..

she previously S pass not under dependant's pass and since she started with S pass we just continue to be it that way.

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Postby or6v » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 8:49 pm

or6v wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:How can you have an approved S pass and an IPA that is pending? If the IPA is pending then the S pass is not yet approved.

As far as being Q pass holder, yeah, you have well enough time in grade and the current salary is okay as well. So give it a try. What's the worst that can happen? You continue to be on a Q1 pass.

I'm curious though, why hasn't your wife been on a dependent's pass?


Approved S Pass because that is what is written in the online status and once it is approved then they have to give the IPA when the employer followed up they said the IPA sis pending..

she previously S pass not under dependant's pass and since she started with S pass we just continue to be it that way.


Follow up question with these is... Can I apply PEP and put my wife underdependant's while her S pass IPA is still pending? my worrry is that it maight cause some conflict with the application. However i read that it's a different thing where once we are approved with PEP is we can cancel her S pass and our my current pass and continue with PEP?

Please any senior experience with the stuff please voice your idea..

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Postby singaporeflyer » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 8:59 pm

As her s pass is already in process,apply for pep for u alone.once it is approved and if needed u can apply for dependent pass for her later on if her s pass is rejected.good luck !

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Postby or6v » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 9:01 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:As her s pass is already in process,apply for pep for u alone.once it is approved and if needed u can apply for dependent pass for her later on if her s pass is rejected.good luck !


That was a good idea.. Have you heard of rejected in applying for depandant's for PEP? is it possible that she might got rejected in case apply her on dependant's pass under PEP?

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Postby singaporeflyer » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 9:31 pm

or6v wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote:As her s pass is already in process,apply for pep for u alone.once it is approved and if needed u can apply for dependent pass for her later on if her s pass is rejected.good luck !


That was a good idea.. Have you heard of rejected in applying for depandant's for PEP? is it possible that she might got rejected in case apply her on dependant's pass under PEP?


If your PEP gets approved, chances of her getting DP should not be very tough. First focus on one thing at a time and try for your PEP if you are interested in it.

There may be cases of PEP dependants being rejected, but how does that correlate to your case. If I am not wrong, each case is different.How can you compare them? That is why MOM/ICA says on a case by case basis... Good Luck !! Dont worry too much

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Postby Ra5AU » Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:55 pm

Hi guys,

As per my previous posts my PEP is rejected. I am planning to apply for EPEC and try my luck.

Will rejection of PEP have any adverse effect on EPEC and then eventually on LTVP.

Thanks for suggestions and advice.
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Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 13 Apr 2011 1:00 pm

Ra5AU wrote:Hi guys,

As per my previous posts my PEP is rejected. I am planning to apply for EPEC and try my luck.

Will rejection of PEP have any adverse effect on EPEC and then eventually on LTVP.

Thanks for suggestions and advice.


Well, here is your problem as I see it. You got rejected for a PEP with a $7500 income. If you get an EPEC, why do you think you will be any more successful at getting an EP?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Apr 2011 1:39 pm

Actually, applying for an EPEC/EP is probably a more viable option than the current situation of him trying for the PEP. The EP can be canceled and the person sent home anytime they want to. Having PEP or PR changes the rules of the game.

The one question that hasn't been asked or addressed here is his nationality. If he is an Indian, he has a better chance of getting an EP than he does getting a PEP, all things being equal. :o Why?

Because the ethnic proportions here have been disrupted in the last 5~10 years or so and the Indian Citizen/PR percentage has jumped up around 1.5~2% over the norms. This was the fault of MOM and Singapore's drive in the IT sector. Now, they are trying to find ways to slow down the influx of Indian Nationals here. Criteria for foreigners have been tightened up across the board but it seemingly even worse for Indian nationals.

Remember one thing about the PEP. It was implemented for the express purpose of acting as a stepping stone to PR and was being initially given to those who they would deem as a decent fit into the "Singaporean" mold so those who are given a PEP, the gahmen figured they would have possibly rooted themselves within 5 years here and could be shoe-in into PR and eventually citizenship. Unfortunately, large number of people started abusing this as well, using it for other purposes, primarily as a means of getting a long term visa so when they lost their jobs, they could take their time finding another one. Same thing with PR. Large numbers started taking up PR for the same reason. I'll give you one guess who the largest group of abusers are.......

Therefore, these people are being rejected more often in order to bring the racial numbers back to a ratio that the gubmint are happy with. Has nothing to do with the individual but with the individual's ethnic origin. Sucks, but, abusers also leave a legacy of aggravation for those that follow. So when you are rejected for no apparent reason, just thank your countrymen who came before you. :-|

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Postby or6v » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 8:50 pm

Hi, I am reading the forum and most of the applicatant are P1 ans P2 whch they have a higher salary. Does anyony knows got the PEP from q1 working 5 years plus and maintaining the salary of 30K/year.

I just want to know coz I am qualified for this I worked for almost 7 years as Q1 and maintaning the salary of 30K/yearly. I have one dependant's currently.

If I applied for this what do you think would be the outcome at this period? And I neve heard anyone hear got the PEP from this level..

Please advise...

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Postby singaporeflyer » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 9:34 pm

or6v wrote:Hi, I am reading the forum and most of the applicatant are P1 ans P2 whch they have a higher salary. Does anyony knows got the PEP from q1 working 5 years plus and maintaining the salary of 30K/year.

I just want to know coz I am qualified for this I worked for almost 7 years as Q1 and maintaning the salary of 30K/yearly. I have one dependant's currently.

If I applied for this what do you think would be the outcome at this period? And I neve heard anyone hear got the PEP from this level..

Please advise...


Based on what u have said mostly likely you would get it.good luck


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