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Post by Ra5AU » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 1:18 pm

When employers are hiring a PEP holder – do they still need to follow the quota etc. and other rules applicable to EP’s.

I want to know if I will have any advantages in securing jobs with PEP.
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Post by Saint » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 1:22 pm

Ra5AU wrote:When employers are hiring a PEP holder – do they still need to follow the quota etc. and other rules applicable to EP’s.

No

I want to know if I will have any advantages in securing jobs with PEP.

See above

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Post by Ra5AU » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 7:00 pm

Thanks Saint,

So, that means they don't have worry about where they have enough locals before hiring a PEP.

That is great - I am waiting for response on my PEP application.

Once I have that I will be job hunting
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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 7:37 pm

Ra5AU wrote:Thanks Saint,

So, that means they don't have worry about where they have enough locals before hiring a PEP.

That is great - I am waiting for response on my PEP application.

Once I have that I will be job hunting
If I am not wrong, there is no quota for EP also. The Quota is only for Work Permit and S Pass?

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Post by Ra5AU » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 8:10 am

Thanks Saint & Singapore Flyer,

Reason for my question – I want to highlight the advantage of PEP applicant to Recruiter by saying –

- Well experienced in the industry
- Supported by education qualifications and
PEP – so, you can treat me as local or PR for employment purposes (am I correct in saying this).
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 8:57 am

No, you can't say that. You are NOT equal to a PR or Citizen. In fact, you will probably be paid more than a local would command in the first place. Oh, a recruiter will already know a heck of a lot more about it than you do. I can vouch for that. Remember, it's their business. Of course, it could very well work in the reverse for you but most don't think about it. If you cannot find a job within 6 months, you are stuffed, Additionally, you could easily find yourself in a somewhat peculiar predicament of employers offering you less once you have a PEP. :o

If you think about it, with jobs tightening up, and costs being reigned in, an employer might think, "I know he only needs to earn $30/K year in order to keep his PEP. While I would like to have him, he's not really an essential must have, but a 'would be nice to have if I could get him at a reasonable cost". He might then only offer you, say 5K/mo. if you are getting close to 6 months. Eight months left? Say 4K/mo. Has he knows you only need 30K to keep the PEP. So, the PEP, depending on the market and how the ground keeps pushing the gahmen, you could find that the PEP could be a millstone as well. Additionally, it's a one-time Pass and if you lose it, for whatever reason, it's gone. Forever. So it would be good to think seriously about it.

My POV as a headhunter and an HR Manager.

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Post by Ra5AU » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 9:18 am

Oh!

You pushed me into defence mode now with that answer.

I thought it will be an advantage but with your explanation it looks like it can be more of a liability.

Well, I have already applied for it. I guess other than waiting for the outcome nothing much can be done.

I hope I can negotiate good package with other aspects if I am successful in securing PEP. :???:
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Post by Saint » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 9:35 am

The advantages of having a PEP are only really if you are currently working in Singapore as it gets rid of the hassle of renewing your EP every 2 years.

As you are not working in Singapore at the moment your PEP application will be based on you currently earning the equivalent of SG$7k. If your application is successful that doesn't mean a company has to pay you 7k. As SMS has correctly mentioned, a company only has to offer you 2.5k to satisfy your PEP requirements.

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Post by Ra5AU » Tue, 22 Mar 2011 9:03 am

Thanks S, SF & SMS,

Can I check the progress of my manula PEP application anywhere.

SingPost gave a ref # to my friend when he submitted my application. :?

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Re: PEP Status

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:39 am

Ra5AU wrote:Thanks S, SF & SMS,

Can I check the progress of my manula PEP application anywhere.

SingPost gave a ref # to my friend when he submitted my application. :?
Your friend can check the application status using EP Online using the Application reference number?

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Post by Ra5AU » Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:29 am

Thanks Mate,

My friend is there for long and he is not very familiar with MOM/Passes etc.

Can he just go on to the web site and enter the ref # to check the status or he needs to register with id’s etc.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:35 am

Ra5AU wrote:Thanks Mate,

My friend is there for long and he is not very familiar with MOM/Passes etc.

Can he just go on to the web site and enter the ref # to check the status or he needs to register with id’s etc.
He can just go to the website (EP Online) and check the Status

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Post by Ra5AU » Mon, 28 Mar 2011 4:06 pm

Hi all,

Help please ............................

I just found out my PEP status says rejected on EP Online.

Can anyone suggest what are options available for me :(

I am overseas, do I need to come to Singapore if I want to appeal and is there a chance. I know we can appeal for other types of passes.

Thanks in advance.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Mar 2011 4:28 pm

Sure, if you've got that kind of money to burn, you can come here a appeal. But the result will almost surely result in another rejection. But it's your money. If you income is less than 8K/year basic salary without any allowances, then maybe you would have a chance. But I wouldn't hold my breath. If you are coming here primarily for a holiday, then do it.
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Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 28 Mar 2011 5:22 pm

Ra5AU wrote:Hi all,

Help please ............................

I just found out my PEP status says rejected on EP Online.

Can anyone suggest what are options available for me :(

I am overseas, do I need to come to Singapore if I want to appeal and is there a chance. I know we can appeal for other types of passes.

Thanks in advance.
your first post has the signature as fresher? how many years of experience do u have?

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