understood, and stand corrected ..Mad Scientist wrote:JPs certification is only meant for local application not overseas
Go ahead and follow his advice at your own peril.
This one cannot play play. It is the same as NS or IRAS thingey
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Hmmm, a public notary eh? Well, we do have a fair few of them dotted around so I'll put out an email or two and see what they say.
I gather from reading around these forums that the main points we need to get across are:
1. We live together in a marriage-like manner
2. This is relatively common in the UK
3. In "some circumstances" such an arrangement confers similar status as marriage.
I wonder if there's a standard format for these things?
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll post back with any news.
I gather from reading around these forums that the main points we need to get across are:
1. We live together in a marriage-like manner
2. This is relatively common in the UK
3. In "some circumstances" such an arrangement confers similar status as marriage.
I wonder if there's a standard format for these things?
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll post back with any news.
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Could you clarify that a bit more, as this question is asked from time to time and seems to be the cause of some anxiety.Z13 wrote:You'll be fine.
I moved here with my girlfriend. Lived with her for only 18 months before landing here.
She came in on a tourist visa- we did all the paper work with MOM after that, and got her LTSVP.
PM me for more info- we used a good agent that did it all for us. Very straight forward and easy.
Spouses are issued DPs by MoM, and it is these that you can make a case for for long-term girl/boyfriends/partners etc.
ICA issue LTVPs, but I can't see any grounds for getting one for a girlfriend or similar. You might have been able to get her an EPEC, but that is a one-time max 12 months and anyway the scheme is now axed.
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Oh ok, interesting... but on what basis would ICA issue the LTVP?Mad Scientist wrote:Common law marriage albeit gf or bf will get LTSVP under ICA
Married couple spouse wll get DP under MOM
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Visitors who are Holders of Foreign-Issued Educational Certificate Seeking Employment in Singapore
Visitors who are Students of Institute of Higher Learning Seeking Employment in Singapore
Female Visitor Whose Child/Grandchild Is Studying in Singapore On A Student's Pass
Visitor Whose Spouse Is A Singapore Citizen (SC) or Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR)
Visitor (below 21 years old) Whose Parent Is A Singapore Citizen (SC) or Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR)
Visitor Whose Child (above the age of 21 years old) is a Singapore Citizen (SC) or Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR)
Visitor Seeking Permission To Deliver A Child In Singapore
Visitor Seeking Long Term Stay
http://www.ica.gov.sg/services_centre_o ... &secid=171
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This oneJR8 wrote:Oh ok, interesting... but on what basis would ICA issue the LTVP?Mad Scientist wrote:Common law marriage albeit gf or bf will get LTSVP under ICA
Married couple spouse wll get DP under MOM
Long Term Visit Pass - Before you apply
Eligibility
P1, P2 Employment Pass holders may apply for Long Term Visit Passes for their:
Common-law Spouse
Unmarried daughters above 21 years of age
Handicapped children above 21 years of age
Stepchildren under 21 years of age
Parents and parents-in-law
http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx
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From the same link as MS gives above...
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Common-law Spouse - A copy of the Employment Pass holder’s statutory declaration of relationship with the applicant.
- A letter from the Employment Pass holder’s embassy confirming the status of the holder’s common-law marriage to the applicant in their country (if applicable).
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It wasn't that long ago that I seem to recall that for ICA spouse meant husband or wife. And now we even have them referring to 'common law spouse' and apparently leaving the definition wide open.
I wonder when the change happened. This surely simplifies matters for the people asking re: 'long time girlfriend', or 'same sex partner'!
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Common-law Spouse - A copy of the Employment Pass holder’s statutory declaration of relationship with the applicant.
- A letter from the Employment Pass holder’s embassy confirming the status of the holder’s common-law marriage to the applicant in their country (if applicable).
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It wasn't that long ago that I seem to recall that for ICA spouse meant husband or wife. And now we even have them referring to 'common law spouse' and apparently leaving the definition wide open.
I wonder when the change happened. This surely simplifies matters for the people asking re: 'long time girlfriend', or 'same sex partner'!
Going back to an earlier point I have made. It would seem that the boundaries of the definition of common-law spouse have potential to be pushed.
But people who seek to do so and attest that their relationship with their 'long term girl/boy-friend' constitutes a marriage, might be wise to consider the possibility of the relationship ending and the potential rights over property and assets.
In life you only rarely can have it both ways
But people who seek to do so and attest that their relationship with their 'long term girl/boy-friend' constitutes a marriage, might be wise to consider the possibility of the relationship ending and the potential rights over property and assets.
In life you only rarely can have it both ways

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Perxactly! Once you have made a declaration of a common law or de facto spouse, that de facto spouse only needs a copy of it to have the same claims against the other party as a legal spouse. Means the long-term shack job could get a whole lot more than room & board if they wanted. Pretty tricky situation and I've actually heard of it happening here in Singapore due to the male getting a bad case of yellow fever.JR8 wrote:Going back to an earlier point I have made. It would seem that the boundaries of the definition of common-law spouse have potential to be pushed.
But people who seek to do so and attest that their relationship with their 'long term girl/boy-friend' constitutes a marriage, might be wise to consider the possibility of the relationship ending and the potential rights over property and assets.
In life you only rarely can have it both ways
I doubt that it was the first time and I daresay it won't be the last.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
Yes, I was under the impression that the LTVP would be the standard way to get your (unmarried) partner to SG. I'm currently planning to try and get my lady a DP however, for the following reasons:
1) The company that are hiring me have asked for a S$5,000 deposit before they will endorse the LTVP paperwork. I don't have that sort of money at the moment, and I'd rather not borrow it.
2) Girlfriend is considering working part time-- I know she can work on a DP with a letter of consent. You can't work on the LTVP. So if she were on an LTVP, she'd have to transition to a WP, and I guess an employer is less likely to want to apply for a WP for a part-time employee.
Regarding letters from a public notary, I've heard back from one of my enquiries and they're suggesting they prepare two statements (one each), then get them notarised. They are also talking about an Apostille, which seems like massive overkill now that I've looked up what it means. They have also said it'll be cheaper if I write the things myself, so might be worth having a think about.
1) The company that are hiring me have asked for a S$5,000 deposit before they will endorse the LTVP paperwork. I don't have that sort of money at the moment, and I'd rather not borrow it.
2) Girlfriend is considering working part time-- I know she can work on a DP with a letter of consent. You can't work on the LTVP. So if she were on an LTVP, she'd have to transition to a WP, and I guess an employer is less likely to want to apply for a WP for a part-time employee.
Regarding letters from a public notary, I've heard back from one of my enquiries and they're suggesting they prepare two statements (one each), then get them notarised. They are also talking about an Apostille, which seems like massive overkill now that I've looked up what it means. They have also said it'll be cheaper if I write the things myself, so might be worth having a think about.
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GrybsGrybs wrote:Yes, I was under the impression that the LTVP would be the standard way to get your (unmarried) partner to SG. I'm currently planning to try and get my lady a DP however, for the following reasons:
1) The company that are hiring me have asked for a S$5,000 deposit before they will endorse the LTVP paperwork. I don't have that sort of money at the moment, and I'd rather not borrow it.
2) Girlfriend is considering working part time-- I know she can work on a DP with a letter of consent. You can't work on the LTVP. So if she were on an LTVP, she'd have to transition to a WP, and I guess an employer is less likely to want to apply for a WP for a part-time employee.
Regarding letters from a public notary, I've heard back from one of my enquiries and they're suggesting they prepare two statements (one each), then get them notarised. They are also talking about an Apostille, which seems like massive overkill now that I've looked up what it means. They have also said it'll be cheaper if I write the things myself, so might be worth having a think about.
As I said before, they want you to spend the money . Prepare the letter yourself, It is just an Oath to state that you are living together. If you let them do it, it will cost your arm and your leg and whatever that comes with it
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