The whole thing might just be simpler if she is qualified for her own EPEC. And then she can choose whether to 'exercise it' and work or not.dumadiscount wrote:Hi all,
I've looked through the various threads and can't seem to find the info I'm looking for.
- I have been offered a 12 month contract in singapore and company will provide me with EP
- I have a girlfriend which would likely to be viewed as a common law marriage (lived together over 6 years, bought house together etc.)
- Girlfriend currently degree qualified in business and marketing and has a professional job here (pays approx SGD$10K per month before tax). Is the $7k PEP threshold before or after tax?
- I'd like for her to come with me to look and look for a job.
So I'm not sure what the best option is:
1. Apply for LTVP or DP under common-law marriage, then she can look for work. Recruiter told me the company won't want to sponsor her but I'm guessing it's just an endorsement so if I push on that it won't be too difficult.
2. Apply for EPEC separately to me, then look for work.
3. Come on a tourist visa and look for work. 90 days? The recruiter said this is the easiest option and if she can't find work within 90 days she goes across the border and then comes back. I'm not sure if it's as simple as that. I don't want to accept the role and then have my girlfriend not be able to come with me!
Thanks for your help.
Sorry, not recognised in Singapore unless legally marrieddumadiscount wrote: - I have a girlfriend which would likely to be viewed as a common law marriage (lived together over 6 years, bought house together etc.)
As above, not recognised here ..1. Apply for LTVP or DP under common-law marriage, then she can look for work. Recruiter told me the company won't want to sponsor her but I'm guessing it's just an endorsement so if I push on that it won't be too difficult.
ecureilx wrote:Sorry, not recognised in Singapore unless legally marrieddumadiscount wrote: - I have a girlfriend which would likely to be viewed as a common law marriage (lived together over 6 years, bought house together etc.)
The 7k SGD criteria for PEP is based on the basic salary earnt and so it is before tax.dumadiscount wrote:- Girlfriend currently degree qualified in business and marketing and has a professional job here (pays approx SGD$10K per month before tax). Is the $7k PEP threshold before or after tax?
Dang .. didn't know that .. and I learnt something new ...Mad Scientist wrote: This is not correct. Co habitation is recognised under MOM Guideline. As long as you can prove that you have been living together with your power bill or phone bill that has both name on it. On top of that get it notarised at the embassy to legalize it before submission of DP under EP if you chose this
MOM guidelines suggest that only an LTSVP can be obtained for a common law spouse, whereas a 'spouse' can get a DP... this seems bit fuzzy.ecureilx wrote:Dang .. didn't know that .. and I learnt something new ...Mad Scientist wrote: This is not correct. Co habitation is recognised under MOM Guideline. As long as you can prove that you have been living together with your power bill or phone bill that has both name on it. On top of that get it notarised at the embassy to legalize it before submission of DP under EP if you chose this
Does co-habitating in Singapore count ??
That explanation works for me.sundaymorningstaple wrote:The way I read that post is that the poster Mulherengo, came from a country that recognizes common law marriage (or pretty close to it) and it was for that reason his partner was given the DP instead of the LTSVP. There used to be a few States in the US that recognized common law marriages. Virginia was one and in fact, when I was young, if you spend a night in a motel with a lady you could be de facto married. So, I believe Singapore will look at the country they are coming from and that country's views on common law marriage for purposes of DP/LTSVP issuance.
SMS , SE to reiterate what I said , it depends on where you apply your passes from if from MOM you will get DP, If you apply from ICA , you will get LTSVP. For the perception of co-habitation although this is quite common from Western countries, it is picking up in Asia too hence ICA and MOM treats everybody the same i.e applicants must prove that appicants are co-habitating for real. Nothing dodgy or YOU ARE OUT OF HERE !!sundaymorningstaple wrote:The way I read that post is that the poster Mulherengo, came from a country that recognizes common law marriage (or pretty close to it) and it was for that reason his partner was given the DP instead of the LTSVP. There used to be a few States in the US that recognized common law marriages. Virginia was one and in fact, when I was young, if you spend a night in a motel with a lady you could be de facto married. So, I believe Singapore will look at the country they are coming from and that country's views on common law marriage for purposes of DP/LTSVP issuance.
Which is a little ambiguous, to say the least. Am I right in reading this as "you still need a letter, just not from us"?Common Law Spouse Letters for Long Term Visit Pass: We do not issue this letter. The Ministry of Manpower has confirmed to us in writing that British nationals applying for Long Term Visit Pass for their partners do not need a letter from the British High Commission Singapore. Please furnish all their other requirements and the pass will be ready on the appointed date. The same is true if you are a permanent resident seeking a long term visit pass for your partner.
Chief, back where I come from, the JP's signature / attestation is recognised as equivalent of Notary Public, and well, we are still very "British" and follow the British law, to a great extent.Mad Scientist wrote:Grybs
Public Notary is another option. It will be recognise. You cannot use Justice of Peace.
It has been tried and tested and the Gahmen will throw your application out of the window. UK, Oz and NZ JP are all the same. Some are good others are very dodgy. Basically they want you to spend the money to get it done. Public Notary or Embassy Officials are the only two that are accepted. JPs certification is only meant for local application not overseasecureilx wrote:Chief, back where I come from, the JP's signature / attestation is recognised as equivalent of Notary Public, and well, we are still very "British" and follow the British law, to a great extent.Mad Scientist wrote:Grybs
Public Notary is another option. It will be recognise. You cannot use Justice of Peace.
Grybs: about the British High Commission here, a friend of mine had the pleasure of responding to 'automated replies' until he addressed the HC as "DEAR COMPUTER" - within a day a human being did call him and assist him about his documentation re: his property in London.
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