+1. Unfortunately you add very little benefit to a future employer particularly in banking or consulting with your academic extensions. We all know that a degree gets you in the door when you are a fresh graduate and the rest is based on drive, experience etc.JR8 wrote:Does it worry you that you might create an impression of avoiding work by being a perpetual student?
It reminds me of a episode in my banking days when my manager declined to promote a colleague of mine, on the basis that he walked around the office too slowly. Yes, really.
The serious point though is that banks hire 'young thrusters' who are willing and able to work their nuts off. A bank is going to have no interest in a perpetual student/clerk with no real world experience to speak of (sorry I don't think the European Commission is real world, and you won't get a job in politics in SG!).
Business consulting? Why would anyone hire you? You have never worked in business. But others here will have much better experience on that topic.
Sorry for the hard-ball but I think you need it. Your suggestion that if you can't get the position you want you'll go off and do yet another degree course rather sums it up for me. There just seems to have been little demonstration so far of a need or desire to work. Plus, there are plenty of 'young thrusters' who are going to leave you absolutely toasted in the trail of their after-burners.
Actually, this is what I have heard before as well. I'm just trying to ignore this fact because from a monetary point of view it just wouldn't make any sense to stay in Singapore and earn clearly less than $3k if you could relatively easily earn €4k in Europe (or up to/around £3k in the UK) - all pre-tax.Mad Scientist wrote:Maybe I am wrong, there is no longer "expat package" offered by local employers for foreign talent. Unless you are relocated here from your parent company overseas.
Yes it is hard to get employed nowadays hence you cannot be choosy. Getting your foot in the door is the best step moving forward. Then you go from there.
Wanting to do something you love will be a challenge here. You must have something that shows your skill set is in demand to gain employment here.
Going to Asia ever after 2-3 years, as an expat, may still not be what you want it to be. The "Old" definition of expat is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. Especially in Countries with better standards of living that what you may have come from. The "uplifts" are not always there.grt wrote:
But, of course, it's not all about money so I'd prefer an exciting time in Singapore to a time or boredom in Germany. But, then again, why not work in Germany for 2-3 years and then go to Asia as an expat...
Thanks. Well, when talking about being an expat I'm not thinking of earning necessarily the same as in my original country or even twice as much due to the 'burden' of coming here. This, indeed, is generally a thing of the past as far as I can tell. From my perspective, it's mostly about being transferred for a certain amount of time, making new experiences and, yes, earning a bit more than the locals/having less rigid contracts.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Going to Asia ever after 2-3 years, as an expat, may still not be what you want it to be. The "Old" definition of expat is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. Especially in Countries with better standards of living that what you may have come from. The "uplifts" are not always there.
Again, just to reiterate, the degrees just get you in the door. It's the experience you bring to the table that gets you hired. If you have no more experience than a local, the government (not the employer) won't give you an Employment Pass. It's that simple. A two step process. Finding an employer who wants to hire you AND the employer being able to convince the MOM that they need to hire a foreigner over local candidates, if there are suitable local candidates readily available. Therein lies your problem.
We, having said all that, are not telling you not to come, but just to not burn any bridges. The odds are stacked heavily against you in the current climate over here, that all.
You would be surprised that in a lot of instances, the home office has little concept of how HR departments in their own overseas subsidiaries are run. They are usually run by, staffed by and managed by locals. Therefore, western concepts are just that.grt wrote:
Nevertheless, the focus on specific work experience here surprises me a bit. Sure, Singapore is an Asian country, but I didn't think, global companies would matter that much and adapt to the local ideas here too much. Interesting.
Thank you, that's helpful to knowsundaymorningstaple wrote:You would be surprised that in a lot of instances, the home office has little concept of how HR departments in their own overseas subsidiaries are run. They are usually run by, staffed by and managed by locals. Therefore, western concepts are just that.
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