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ecureilx wrote:x9200 wrote:I bet I could build up an analogy based on explosives.
Well, this is Singapore, and unlike western countries, where they say "Guns dont' kill, it is the people who kill" - in Singapore, the law says Guns kill, and if you carry a gun even without the intention of killing anybody, you can face life in prison ..
By the way, even cops can be charged for discharging weapons, unless confronted, and there is not such thing here as 'tried to scare the guy .. '
If you lived here long enough - you will know that, and possibly seen that, unlike countries where cops shoot and ask questions here cops try to run and catch the guy before pulling out their guns .. and guns only come out if the suspect pulls out a knife or something really threatening ..
And if you have been watching news, there have been enough cases of even Cisco guards punished for leaving their workplace with their gun and also the NS guy who took out an "EMPTY" gun was recommended death penalty - ah, and in Singapore law, threatening with a gun - loaded or not, gets you the death penalty .. no ignorance of the law works ..
PS: Not a hearsy, I was also told that more than one cop had been fired and lost his/her pension benefits when they tried to break up fights by firing in the air .. though such act is the norm in most countries, and the cops can always plead that they were forced to fire ..
I am not aware of any where in the world where it is the norm for someone to fire a gun in the air to stop a fight... and this is coming from a guy who grew up in Texas in the U.S. I know my brother-in-law who is a sheriff and many other cops who do not just take their gun out for any little thing, it is a big deal in the west to misuse your firearm as well.
I do think however that the analogy of a gun.. or explosives is not the best... Guns have 1 purpose, to shoot a bullet.. Explosives have 1 purpose.. to explode.. The equivalent would be to say that dogs have 1 purpose.. to attack.. Just not the best analogy although I do see where your train of thought was going. Certainly big dogs need to be trained and handled properly... Especially the training part.. However unless a dog is trained to attack that is not his first response or instinct unless threatened.. otherwise I do not think the long relationship between man and dog would have taken place. If someone cannot handle a big dog.. and he hasn't been trained to attack the most likely outcome is a dog running around peeing on something.. or licking someone
ttuguy421 wrote:ecureilx wrote:x9200 wrote:I bet I could build up an analogy based on explosives.
Well, this is Singapore, and unlike western countries, where they say "Guns dont' kill, it is the people who kill"
Also... I have yet to see an instance where someone died of a gun where a person was not involved in handling said gun....
ttuguy421 wrote:I am not aware of any where in the world where it is the norm for someone to fire a gun in the air to stop a fight... and this is coming from a guy who grew up in Texas in the U.S. I know my brother-in-law who is a sheriff and many other cops who do not just take their gun out for any little thing, it is a big deal in the west to misuse your firearm as well.
Not to loose the focus, I was trying to get the message across, that even carrying unloaded guns invite death penalty .. never mind even a policeman discharging a gun ...
Yah, of course, now in US it is the days to taze and daze ..
And the rest of your argument goes like when somebody says 'barking dogs don't bite' the common thought is 'does that dog know that ?? '
ttuguy421 wrote:We have been here a little over a year and have found the following.
A lot of locals that we have encountered while walking dogs on the street are scared or frightened of dogs, it is not uncommon to see them take a wide berth of any dog, large or small.
Muslims find dogs "unclean" and are therefore not as familiar or accepting of dogs as others.
Most private housing (either apartment or housing) will depend on the owner as to what kind of dog they will allow. Ours will allow us a small to medium sized dog with no deposit or money paid in case of damage.
The weather being hot and humid year around is certainly a strain on dogs that are used to cooler climates. Huskies and the like have a hard time here and one should be careful when taking them out and make sure they are well hydrated. Also there can be skin problems because of the heat and humidity with "hot spots" on the skin, or certain fungal infections.
We haven't had any local experience with vets yet (we hope to start on Saturday!) but there are plenty of them around.
Lastly, there are many places in Singapore where you can take your dog, such as the many parks, nature reserves, beaches etc. with a lot of walking paths. Below is a link to the AVA which will give you more of an idea on what to expect for dogs and any requirements that you need, along with the list of breeds that require muzzling while out in public.
http://www.ava.gov.sg/NR/rdonlyres/2FCF ... ov2010.pdf
http://www.ava.gov.sg/AnimalsPetSector/ ... Licensing/
Thanks for the info. I think the HDB restriction is my biggest concern, as the positions I am looking at would mean private is way out of my reach in any case
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