They do not ask if you are banned but whether you ever have been banned. What did you actually answer?jmondejar wrote: 2. In the EP Form there is a checkbox questionaire there asking "Have you ever been prohibited in Entering SG. Give the details
2.1 With this question, should I answer No since my ban is already lifted anyway?
Maybe the term that i use is not right, i'm not so sure. But i was prohibited to enter singapore since July 2010 so we did appeal to the ICA just for me to enter again Singapore from Kuala Lumpur. So as I stated in my very long story, ICA already approved my appeal to enter singapore again since January 14, 2011 and since then I'm freely going in and out of singapore. This friday will be the fifth time I will enter Singapore since the appeal to ICA was approved.Mad Scientist wrote:I think the problem is two part. You are banned and most banned immigrants has a two to five years placed on them.
I do not think because of your work visa has been canceledyou are immediately banned from entering and living in SG. It takes alot more to be given this "award".
There are more to this than meets the eye.
Although ICA and MOM are very strict in their protocol but they do abide that protocol. You must have cross a few boxes in order to get a VIP welcome.
You need to give us more info if you want us to help.
ICA if they lift your banned, their database should have removed that "removal from SG and banned from entry to SG for a period ........yrs" from your profile.
Then you have to inform MOM to do the same.
Methinks you are not giving us straight answers here.
I answer "Yes" because I know they already have a record so it's useless for me to say "No".x9200 wrote:They do not ask if you are banned but whether you ever have been banned. What did you actually answer?jmondejar wrote: 2. In the EP Form there is a checkbox questionaire there asking "Have you ever been prohibited in Entering SG. Give the details
2.1 With this question, should I answer No since my ban is already lifted anyway?
Also to me the ban sounds like a very harsh punishment for just not having a valid visa (business visa?).
Pass rejections are due to many reasons, and while your suspicion may hold water, it may not be the actual reason ... reasons can also include influx of your countrymen here (with election around the corner) and also maybe a past ICA entry being tagged as a NFE / Wx / suspicious entry into Singapore.jmondejar wrote:But my real problem now is that I have signed an offer letter from a Singapore company already and they already processed my application in MOM. But MOM rejected my application. We don't know what the reason why it was rejected, but i have a hint that it's because I was prohibited to enter Singapore last year that's why my application was rejected.
If your employer is big enough, and they need you dearly, they will know how to proceed in the appeal process, and also submitting a letter of support and in cases, they could rope in some additional recommendations, along with a copy of 'clean seperation' from your malaysian employer etc can fix your problem .. most of the times ..I just want to know if you have any suggestion on what I can do or the HR of the Singapore company who wants to hire me so that when we re-appeal, MOM will approve our application for me to work in Singapore.
thanks ecureilx. Yeah I was informed that they will appeal my EP application in MOM by this week. I just hope that they will do whatever they can to have my EP application approved. The company is still small and it's still new so i'll cross my fingers with regards to this matter.ecureilx wrote:Pass rejections are due to many reasons, and while your suspicion may hold water, it may not be the actual reason ... reasons can also include influx of your countrymen here (with election around the corner) and also maybe a past ICA entry being tagged as a NFE / Wx / suspicious entry into Singapore.jmondejar wrote:But my real problem now is that I have signed an offer letter from a Singapore company already and they already processed my application in MOM. But MOM rejected my application. We don't know what the reason why it was rejected, but i have a hint that it's because I was prohibited to enter Singapore last year that's why my application was rejected.
Example: The one case I fought for, ICA doesn't share everything with MOM, and while ICA says 'rejected entry' ICA fails to tell MOM that the rejection was due to the application not having a valid return ticket - and for MOM, they only see "prior rejection of entry"
If your employer is big enough, and they need you dearly, they will know how to proceed in the appeal process, and also submitting a letter of support and in cases, they could rope in some additional recommendations, along with a copy of 'clean seperation' from your malaysian employer etc can fix your problem .. most of the times ..I just want to know if you have any suggestion on what I can do or the HR of the Singapore company who wants to hire me so that when we re-appeal, MOM will approve our application for me to work in Singapore.
Thanks Mad Scientist! me and one HR personnel will join me in re-appealing my EP to MOM this Friday.Mad Scientist wrote:Ah.... my bad
You are requested to leave SG after pass expired. Removal can be from One day to 14 days.
You are not banned nor prohibited
You are certainly NOT undesirable visitor
Appeal you must, your HR or the MD should go and see MOM armed with docs to show that your skillset is needed for their operation. You can go with them if need be. Then wait. This the only thing you can do after that.
Good Luck
This question comes up and the answer is the samejmondejar wrote:I don't want to ask the HR staff directly to fear that she'll think that I'm thinking she did not re-appeal.
thanks ecureilx! Now I know that 90% of the time MOM does'nt change the status when trying to appeal for EP.ecureilx wrote:This question comes up and the answer is the samejmondejar wrote:I don't want to ask the HR staff directly to fear that she'll think that I'm thinking she did not re-appeal.![]()
MOM doesn't change the status, of an appeal, from the previous rejection, as one would expect ..
90% of the times, appeals still show as 'rejected' and not 'under appeal'
Best - if your employer is good, and the HR is professional, I see no reason why they should lie to you ... of course, small shops may do that .. instead of telling you they gave up on you ..
Asking the HR to provide proof is a double edged sword - it may make you feel happy, and also may make HR suspect that you don't trust them ..
Play safe ..
let me give you my 2 cents opinionjmondejar wrote:I suggest to the HR personnel for us to go to MOM and appeal personally this coming friday March 18 which is more than 2 weeks and a half from the time that appeal has been made. I just want to know if going to MOM personally while waiting for the online appeal before the 3 weeks appeal processing is a good move to do. Thankfully the HR personnel agreed to come with me to MOM.
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