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Postby JR8 » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 4:53 pm

beppi wrote:Maybe the following can be implemented by the forum administrators:
New members (e.g. those with less than 5 posts, like the PM sending threshold) will have to answer "Yes" to the question "Have you searched the forum and made sure that your question is not already answered in other threads?"
This will limit repeat questions to those who cannot (or won't) read, not just those who cannot (or won't) search. (How such people can write a post is unclear to me, but at least we then have even more reason to ridicule them - which is kind of fun.)


Your conclusion is evil, and yet fun :)

I think there a few of issues:-

- On many forums historically the search function is/was complete rubbish, and was never on the priority list for upgrading. That said I think the onus is still on the person seeking information to give it a go. Since the advent of 'powered by Google', search functions in general are vastly better.

- Every person asking a question thinks their circumstances are unique, despite there being a large amount of cross-over with others who have asked the same question before.

- There is an unspoken element of wanting hand-holding. Moving continent is a big and stressful event, and people seek out moral support for their decisions.

- I imagine there are also people who flagrantly expect others to run around for them, but my gut feel is most people asking 'silly' questions come under/across the above three categories.

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 5:11 pm

JR8 wrote:- I imagine there are also people who flagrantly expect others to run around for them, but my gut feel is most people asking 'silly' questions come under/across the above three categories.


My own 2 cents experience says that the above is more towards the truth, than the other 3 :)

If you can log on to the net, play on Facebook, search your email and attend to specific work related problems, and this and that, but when you barge into a forum and feign inexperience in 'searching' ?? come on ..

Maybe one out of 100 is really that bad, but my take is 99% are lazy and expect to be spoon fed, or throw their weight around, the same weight that moves heaven and earth at their work place, and when they find that in the net you need to earn respect - they go into a major "I CAN'T BELIEVE NOBODY IS GONNA DO MY LEGWORK" mode .. :)

Once I had a real shooting match with a guy who asked a question in a forum - the same question is asked everyday, and when there was deathly silence, and then he blew his top off going "why the heck do you guys even run a forum - and you guys will be fired if you work for me .. " etc. etc ... forgetting that nobody gets paid to his show of force .. ;)

Been there .. or seen that .. ;)

or maybe I am totally wrong ... :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 5:31 pm

I've always wondered how much foreign talent would never make it here if they had to do it the way us old-timers had to do it? :-k [-(

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 5:36 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I've always wondered how much foreign talent would never make it here if they had to do it the way us old-timers had to do it? :-k [-(


Well, each and everything I went through was a lesson, including how to even talk to some people .. and how to avoid getting ripped off (after getting ripped off.. ) :) :)

And ... if you disable Google, i am sure 90% of the new IT guys will commit suicide :D :D (oops .. me too am an IT person, but I got in at a time when there was no google on "HOW TO RESTORE ACTIVE DIRECTORY .. " etc. etc.. )

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 5:47 pm

I came just a wee bit before that. In fact the only commercial data transmission equipment there was was the Telex! :o

I received my entire contract via Telex in Morgan City, La when I was headhunted back in '82 to come over here for Oceaneering.

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Postby Addadude » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 5:52 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I came just a wee bit before that. In fact the only commercial data transmission equipment there was was the Telex! :o

I received my entire contract via Telex in Morgan City, La when I was headhunted back in '82 to come over here for Oceaneering.


I got my first Singapore contract by post and then I had to sign it and fax it back. When I first stepped off the plane here the only guides I had were a mini-Berlitz guide to Singapore and a copy of Culture Shock Singapore. Both books although freshly printed were completely out of date.
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Postby JR8 » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 6:01 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I came just a wee bit before that. In fact the only commercial data transmission equipment there was was the Telex! :o

I received my entire contract via Telex in Morgan City, La when I was headhunted back in '82 to come over here for Oceaneering.


I first used the internet in 1983 at university. The place had an Amdahl computer that occupied most of a large room. E-mail was confined to comms between academics (worldwide), but I recall how hideously awkward it was writing them, it was like doing line code and yes you had to start each line with 10, 20, 30 and so on. Then along came a PC based system called BBC Gold in 84/85 that relatively speaking revolutionised that.

First used the web in SG back in '94. As I recall back then it was a few news sites, and the rest was porn. Launching a porn site back then was as pioneering as doing an 'internet start-up' in 2000. Looking back now it is amazing to think those eras were only 6 years apart.

I must be feeling old today to reminisce... :)

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Postby BillyB » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 6:01 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I came just a wee bit before that. In fact the only commercial data transmission equipment there was was the Telex! :o

I received my entire contract via Telex in Morgan City, La when I was headhunted back in '82 to come over here for Oceaneering.


Sounds like headhunters were able to pick up the phone back then rather than hide behind linkedin!!

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 6:14 pm

Addadude wrote:I got my first Singapore contract by post and then I had to sign it and fax it back. When I first stepped off the plane here the only guides I had were a mini-Berlitz guide to Singapore and a copy of Culture Shock Singapore. Both books although freshly printed were completely out of date.


Addadude, I have been meaning to ask. Are you a member of the Brian Cowen fan club, or just a double for him? :)

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 8:16 pm

The thread... 'It's 2011....Tell us your success in PR application..' is a good example of utter pointlessness, by a person who wants hand-holding, but is not able to admit it in those terms..

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 8:37 pm

Why, during my days, we dint have any of these fancy-schmancy computers and smartphones and doodads and doohickeys. All we had was the public library and we had to walk 15 miles to it! In the snow! And it was uphill! Both ways!!!

---HEY! You damned noisy kids!!! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!



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