+1 - Most articles I've seen put his 'kills' at between 40 and 78 million and the others somewhat lower than the stats on the photo... 23 million for Stalin, and about 15 million for Hitler.Vaucluse wrote:I think most accurate assessments place Mao ahead of Stalin . . .JR8 wrote:oh I forgot this p.s. to my previous post.
"In other countries those sportsmen are amateur, e.g. I was once in Prague, the door man in the hotel has attended the Olympic game in 2008. "Eau2011 wrote:ksl wrote: There is incredible talent in China, you can see that with all the gold medals they take, it is a huge and wonderful Country and we see the changes rapidly advancing towards a more open society. the hunger for growth is there, though the sustainability of building and knocking down, building less than 5 years old, will take its toll and the bubble will burst to keep the construction industry employed.
Unfortunately I have to tell you those professional sportsmen are financed by the Chinese tax payers. They do nothing but train to get the gold medals, that's their occupation. Chinese people critisied this a lot during Olympic game in 2008.
In other countries those sportsmen are amateur, e.g. I was once in Prague, the door man in the hotel has attended the Olympic game in 2008.
Another example is German Dmocratic republic in Olympic games from 1972 to 1988, they've won the most gold medals cause they put much time and money to train these sportsmen.
The most gold medals don't mean average Chinese are good at sport.
It does well to listen to its own heart...only last week they reduced the crimes on the list of capital offences. china is heading in the right direction , though technologically speaking it's quite a long way behind and will rely on others to develop high tech.
I really don't know if you can trust the media much about the reducing of crimes of capital offences.
But on developing high tech I agree with you.
SE and Vaucluse, yes I believe you are right, but finding pithy graphics with accurate stats on is not so easy. I was aiming for more of a two-fingered 'a picture paints a thousand words' than complete historical accuracy. If that makes sense!Strong Eagle wrote: +1 - Most articles I've seen put his 'kills' at between 40 and 78 million and the others somewhat lower than the stats on the photo... 23 million for Stalin, and about 15 million for Hitler.
Say SMS, thanks for sticking up for me. And yes, it's better to be seen as nameless as I was getting some embarrassemnt with such uncalled for attacks, or should I say abuse, this being the only way some posters need to resort to to get my rebuttals.sundaymorningstaple wrote:What's wrong with being provocative? As far as heat is concerned, she's also taken her fair share of abuse. I'd say it's more like a schoolyard spat. That's why I'm willing to let it continue. Both sides are being provocative so it would only be fair to warn ALL posters that the same could easily befall any of us/them who continue to push at the OB markers. As far as her beliefs are concerned, it's somewhat interesting to have somebody go against mainstream thought, never mind how misguided we think or it actually may be. I do it all the time over the current stooge in the White House.![]()
Let us not be so hasty to condemn to oblivion when in most cases she it just trying to give back what she is getting.
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tyianchang wrote: And yes, it's better to be seen as nameless as I was getting some embarrassemnt with such uncalled for attacks, or should I say abuse, this being the only way some posters need to resort to to get my rebuttals.
That is indeed what I felt.tyianchang wrote: Some just can't take it when discussions fall way outside their scope.... Or are there the Thought Police around?
The problem is that he/she seemingly can't, which is quite a pity as it is worthwhile being presented with two sides of a coin . . . but open discussion is not part of the authoritarian credoEau2011 wrote: If you can discuss reasonably, I would not have felt that.
I can categorically say you needn't have any fear of me. I don't make it a point to remember what goes on in the forum. As for the national security, lol, that's really so funny I can smell something!Eau2011 wrote:That is indeed what I felt.tyianchang wrote: Some just can't take it when discussions fall way outside their scope.... Or are there the Thought Police around?
I was brain-washed before, and now I can think free. You repeated exactly what I have heard when I grew up. Thinking is verboten, that's the message you gave to me.
So I felt Thought Police is around me again and Big Brother is watching me!
And you gave me the impression that you can't take it when dicussions fall way outside your scope. You asked about my motive and where I live.
With these two points, I was a bit scared by you. I was even afraid you might be from national security.
If you can discuss reasonably, I would not have felt that.
JR8 wrote:tyianchang wrote: And yes, it's better to be seen as nameless as I was getting some embarrassemnt with such uncalled for attacks, or should I say abuse, this being the only way some posters need to resort to to get my rebuttals.
Two points.
You do not seem to accept that forums are for debate. That means that sometimes people will disagree with you, however you do not seem to accept that people should be allowed to disagree with you.
My advice...
For heaven's sake can you post in comprehensible English!? And you say you were a teacher in England!? Really I'm done with even trying, many people have said they have no idea what you are talking about (incl me), and yet you make no effort to be more cogent. Well?
It is no wonder you irritate so many people and disrupt the forum as a result.
Nak, you are an UN peacemakernakatago wrote:JR8 wrote:tyianchang wrote: And yes, it's better to be seen as nameless as I was getting some embarrassemnt with such uncalled for attacks, or should I say abuse, this being the only way some posters need to resort to to get my rebuttals.
Two points.
You do not seem to accept that forums are for debate. That means that sometimes people will disagree with you, however you do not seem to accept that people should be allowed to disagree with you.
My advice...
For heaven's sake can you post in comprehensible English!? And you say you were a teacher in England!? Really I'm done with even trying, many people have said they have no idea what you are talking about (incl me), and yet you make no effort to be more cogent. Well?
It is no wonder you irritate so many people and disrupt the forum as a result.
Dude...dining room table. DINING. ROOM. EFFIN'. TABLE.
Well, the facepalm doesn't just quite work for this one.Eau2011 wrote:Nak, you are an UN peacemakernakatago wrote:JR8 wrote:
Two points.
You do not seem to accept that forums are for debate. That means that sometimes people will disagree with you, however you do not seem to accept that people should be allowed to disagree with you.
My advice...
For heaven's sake can you post in comprehensible English!? And you say you were a teacher in England!? Really I'm done with even trying, many people have said they have no idea what you are talking about (incl me), and yet you make no effort to be more cogent. Well?
It is no wonder you irritate so many people and disrupt the forum as a result.
Dude...dining room table. DINING. ROOM. EFFIN'. TABLE.
If you consider all the above students, lecturers, and post PHD researchers, you will discover, that they are hand picked, due to their loyalty program and supported by government subsidies, and/or relatives to high cadre officials. Only the cream used to be allowed out back in the 90's as passports had to be applied for, from the national security police.Chinese students and lecturers, post PHD researches etc and no one of them ever talk about fear or national security. It makes me wonder why you keep on at it, that's all.
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