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Postby tyianchang » Mon, 28 Feb 2011 8:44 pm

bigfilsing wrote:well not so much a wind up as a alcohol (yes SE) induced outlet of frustration following a Friday night "with the boys" Of late "with the boys" has turned into a discussion group and the US's foreign policy is always a good un.

k1w1 > Exactly who expects the US to step in ? Aside from the occasional dictator who is losing power to the masses and bleats like a school girl ( while shifting their amassed millions offshore) . The US have assumed the role of world police , usually only when their interests are threatened.
I get it ...its a big place with a lot of people . Reserve currency mmmmmh can you say bankrupt in Chinese :D

My rant isn't generic USA bashing ...i have visited many times and its a fantastic place with many great people , i am just tired of the US wadding in uninvited to try and bring people the US idea of democracy and values when its clear many dont want it and often the flavour of democracy wont/doesn't work in other countries.

Egypt burst and is calming down without foreign involvement ...my guess (hope) is Libya, Algeria and Iran will do the same. Leave them to it. Maybe not ideal but just how many un-win-able wars do you want to be involved in.


As recently announced, the UN security Council's stepping up their demands on C.Ghadafi and will try him in court after his surrender. I'm not entirely sure if that's intervention or inference, but it might be an economically arranged outcome, with the cost of the court hearings to be funded by the sale of oil.
I agree about leaving countries to run their own governments. It's all about taking sides rather than really knowing who's good or bad. Besides, it's all spreading a bit too thin on the ground. Who'll be left to defend if everyone's sent out to fight other people's wars?
The forecast for Egypt, and probably Libya, is that the people will need aid as food shortage is becoming a problem. Can the US and the UK send aid to these countries in the aftermath of the revolutions when they're lumbered with national debts, cuts, rising costs and a bleak economy?
Yet, the world depends on each other and I agree peace and self-determinism is the only way but can Egypt ensure a fair election in the coming months without help from the UN and will the new govt guarantee equal rights for all?
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Postby ksl » Tue, 01 Mar 2011 5:04 pm

In the short term it's who can get in the history books! :o Politicians care of only one thing, themselves very rarely the people, but there own ideology, which may expand or shrink much further than the majority of voters own ideals. Once voted in, the people have authorised chaos at their own expense, only a minority may benefit.

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Postby tyianchang » Thu, 03 Mar 2011 5:29 pm

ksl wrote:In the short term it's who can get in the history books! :o Politicians care of only one thing, themselves very rarely the people, but there own ideology, which may expand or shrink much further than the majority of voters own ideals. Once voted in, the people have authorised chaos at their own expense, only a minority may benefit.


You explained your new crest elsewhere. A symbol of your family clan and business empire? Good luck in all your endeavours.
The saying in the 60s, 'Whatever party you vote for become the new government." I like the understatement.
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Postby Calmday » Thu, 03 Mar 2011 6:10 pm

ksl wrote:In the short term it's who can get in the history books! :o Politicians care of only one thing, themselves very rarely the people,
This is very true but (IMO) in the US they care a lot more about getting re-elected than any ideology. Most of them would sell their souls to Satan to get re-elected. With a few exceptions most votes in the US are more or less straight down party lines which tells me none of them think for themselves. If they keep their party happy they will get lots of support come election time. Cross the party and they don’t have a chance.
This is how they can pass the biggest spending bill in the history of the planet without one single person ever actually reading it.

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:36 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
bigfilsing wrote:hearing about what the USA ( although it should match the IQ and be i n small caps ) cares about.


Kinda like your nick, yeah? :lol:

Look whose nick is talking :wink: With 4 caps in my nick, I have to conclude that I'm a genius :cool:

Anyway when I hear too much about the US, I just switch from CNN to the BBC :D

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 5:00 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
bigfilsing wrote:hearing about what the USA ( although it should match the IQ and be i n small caps ) cares about.


Kinda like your nick, yeah? :lol:

Look whose nick is talking :wink: With 4 caps in my nick, I have to conclude that I'm a genius :cool:

Anyway when I hear too much about the US, I just switch from CNN to the BBC :D


When I hear too much left-wing garbage I switch the BBC to off :)

(This applies to domestic BBC, whereas BBC 24/World is just about watchable)
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Postby Eau2011 » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 8:01 pm

JR8 wrote:
Wind In My Hair wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
bigfilsing wrote:hearing about what the USA ( although it should match the IQ and be i n small caps ) cares about.


Kinda like your nick, yeah? :lol:

Look whose nick is talking :wink: With 4 caps in my nick, I have to conclude that I'm a genius :cool:

Anyway when I hear too much about the US, I just switch from CNN to the BBC :D


When I hear too much left-wing garbage I switch the BBC to off :)

(This applies to domestic BBC, whereas BBC 24/World is just about watchable)


I switch from CNN to BBC to AJE - Al Jazeera. :mrgreen:

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 8:22 pm

I prefer Sky, Fox and ITV.
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Postby aster » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 8:40 pm

DW ain't bad then they do that "No Comment" thing and just show images.

Also, on my iPad I like France24 though I have nothing to do with the country itself. :)

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Postby LMLMD » Wed, 09 Mar 2011 6:52 am

Eau2011 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
Wind In My Hair wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
bigfilsing wrote:hearing about what the USA ( although it should match the IQ and be i n small caps ) cares about.


Kinda like your nick, yeah? :lol:

Look whose nick is talking :wink: With 4 caps in my nick, I have to conclude that I'm a genius :cool:

Anyway when I hear too much about the US, I just switch from CNN to the BBC :D


When I hear too much left-wing garbage I switch the BBC to off :)

(This applies to domestic BBC, whereas BBC 24/World is just about watchable)


I switch from CNN to BBC to AJE - Al Jazeera. :mrgreen:


AJE for the win. :D
BBC used to be OK, now just act as UK govt cheerleading squad. :roll:
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Postby JR8 » Wed, 09 Mar 2011 7:20 am

LMLMD wrote:
Eau2011 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
Wind In My Hair wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
bigfilsing wrote:hearing about what the USA ( although it should match the IQ and be i n small caps ) cares about.


Kinda like your nick, yeah? :lol:

Look whose nick is talking :wink: With 4 caps in my nick, I have to conclude that I'm a genius :cool:

Anyway when I hear too much about the US, I just switch from CNN to the BBC :D


When I hear too much left-wing garbage I switch the BBC to off :)

(This applies to domestic BBC, whereas BBC 24/World is just about watchable)

I switch from CNN to BBC to AJE - Al Jazeera. :mrgreen:

AJE for the win. :D
BBC used to be OK, now just act as UK govt cheerleading squad. :roll:


Incorrect they were regarded as the Blair/Brown Broadcasting service, and yes almost an arm of Labour government.

I can assure though that with a change of government the beast that is the BBC has not changed it's spots. It is hideously metropolitan, gay, ethnic, and 20-something. Which when you consider it is funded by an enforced tax on all citizens of the entire UK (a material number of whom will never have met a Londoner, gay person or ethnic minority) is really quite extraordinary.

At the base level, if you refuse to buy a license and fund the BBC propaganda, you're going to jail.


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