Renouncing Singapore Citizenship & NS for Children

[arajastan]

Hi,

I am 50 this year and am a naturalized singapore citizen who came to singapore in 1992 with my wife from Bombay for work. We have 2 children, both in poly now, one 18, the other 17, but are now in the US. And we have been living here happily for over 18+ years now.

Although we got our citizenship many years back, we somehow managed to keep our citizenships and our kids also hold dual passports. We intend to renounce our singapore citizenships. In preparation for this, we have sold both our HDB flat and terrece house Nov last year and are now living in a rented 3 room flat.

Recently, after lengthy discussions with my wife, we have decided to retire and go back to India this April and in the mean time, my 2 kids can continue to study in the Universities they have been accept to in the US and are there studying now. However, the older one of them received this NS enlistment letter recently.

1) Is there anyway for our 2 boys to avoid serving in NS? They tried to renounce their Singapore citizenship in December last year, but was not allowed to
2) If they simply do not serve NS, and just continue their studies overseas what are the consequences, is it a matter of just not being able to come in singapore in the future.
3) On renouncing citizenship, how long will CPF take to refund the monies held in our account.
4) Will we get back all the monies held there, ie, medisave, special and ordinary

If anyone know of any short cut or workaround, please let me know.

Thanks for your help.

[Saint]

[sundaymorningstaple]

You have screwed your kids. Hopefully they will never have to transit through Singapore as the are now NS Deserters. With the new database it's rather easy to check by looking at passenger manifests of incoming flights to see if there are any names that are flagged in the NS databases of those who are alive and not legally out of the country on Exit Permits. You have made it impossible for your children to ever enter Singapore again. Whether for a job or just a visit as a tourist. It's a shame that they can't jail you instead of your kids. Oh, wait, is that a knock on your door? I believe they've recently changed the law so that they can go after the parents as well as it's usually the parent that cause the problems.

http://www.singaporeupdate.com/previous ... ermits.htm

Extracted from the above site:

We will thus be introducing a new offence in the Enlistment Act under which parents and guardians can be made liable for the Exit Permit offences of their children or wards of ages 13 to 16½ so that the penalty can be imposed on their parents or guardians when the circumstances warrant it. The penalty regime for the offence will also be a fine of up to $2,000.

If your kids have already received their notices from NS then there is a good possibility that your CPF is frozen. You cannot withdraw your CPF until you have renounced your Citizenship. The fact that you have moved your assets out of the country and they are now in violation of the law, it's a distinct possibility that the government here may not accept your renouncement of citizenship as you would be telling them that you are holding two passports and that is also breaking the law here. I'd say you have put you, your wife and your kids in a predicament of your own making. Good Luck. You're gonna need it. You kids are going to need even more.