so many plastic bags used??

[JR8]

heads up, folks...your posts are just bloody difficult to read now.

Amen! In fact... I don't!

Too much color.

You can't tell which poster is saying what. Why not just use the quotation option?

Thanks and noted MHB. Frankly I have no difficulty following the discussion that I am having, but that of course not mean others do not. So thanks, ... will try to be clearer if and when I get stuck into these epics in future...

[JR8]

I'd be willing to bet a good number of consumers visit shopping centers at least a 171 times in a year. Anecdotal evidence of this holds true when i was working retail. You would see a good number of the same people in the store 3-4 times a week. I would image they shop elsewhere as well but it wouldn't take long to hit 171 trips.

In the end, for myself, I'd rather not continue to contribute to the Garbage Island and i feel reusable bags are a step in that direction.

'This will of course be met by the suckered sheeple with a rousing 'Baaaaa-nay, that is not possible'!'

And they won't like hearing that there is no connection between plastic shopping bags and Garbage Island. Or that the latter has been discredited as wildly exagerated.

Baaaah!


p.s. The next level is 'I appreciate that it is discredited and untrue, but within myself I still feel that it is the right thing to do'.

[Eau2011]

Oh my....


JR8....

I give up arguing with you about environment. let the plastic bags go to hell...

But you completely missed "fair game" in my post. I did not compare single CM with what Germany and Japan did, acutally the whole war.

I was trying to say the Iraq war was the biggest mistake. In future, the new super power can also find an unfounded excuse to start a war in a country and invite their fellows to join in them?

[aster]

I was trying to say the Iraq war was the biggest mistake.

I think we've all realised that by now. Going into Afghanistan was the right move. But Iraq? That was a criminal act.

But then look who was in power. Look at the condition in which he took over the country and the complete mess that he made of it over 8 years of the worst presidency that my generation can remember.

And after all this they stick out McCain... with Palin to run for VP? There is definitely a major IQ drought in the Republican party...

[Eau2011]

And after all this they stick out McCain... with Palin to run for VP? There is definitely a major IQ drought in the Republican party...

I do agree with you. I have been observing it with concern...

[Wind In My Hair]

heads up, folks...your posts are just bloody difficult to read now.

Agreed. Whereas one-liners like this make the point with flair!

[fly2sneha]

I've known a lot of ABC's, BBC's & CBC's in the almost 3 decades I've been here (I'm married to an Asian as well for 27 of those). Almost without fail, they have basically all said the same thing and all have done just what we say will happen. The fact that your are a banana, being Chinese on the outside is poor preparation for the Western guy on the inside. As James Bond said, 'never say never again'. But welcome to Singapore anyway. It's interesting to say the least, and boring as hell after 6 months.

Its boring after 2 weeks. congratulations on 6 months!

Thanks anyway. Well, we will see.

We will take the chance to travel the neighbouring countries for not getting bored if we cannot change the fact that the city is boring.

abt the plastic bags, i take 3-4 bags from home when i go shopping nearby and if planned. that way i feel less guilty. otherwise i feel guilty as hell for having to use and waste soooo many plastic bags!

[Eau2011]

I've known a lot of ABC's, BBC's & CBC's in the almost 3 decades I've been here (I'm married to an Asian as well for 27 of those). Almost without fail, they have basically all said the same thing and all have done just what we say will happen. The fact that your are a banana, being Chinese on the outside is poor preparation for the Western guy on the inside. As James Bond said, 'never say never again'. But welcome to Singapore anyway. It's interesting to say the least, and boring as hell after 6 months.

Its boring after 2 weeks. congratulations on 6 months!

Thanks anyway. Well, we will see.

We will take the chance to travel the neighbouring countries for not getting bored if we cannot change the fact that the city is boring.

abt the plastic bags, i take 3-4 bags from home when i go shopping nearby and if planned. that way i feel less guilty. otherwise i feel guilty as hell for having to use and waste soooo many plastic bags!

Oh my...
Now you have to deal with JR8. He will give you lessons from basic, intermediate to advanced... Or you just go through all the posts in this thread. Enjoy!

[nakatago]

See? We here can disagree with each other without being dicks or douchebags. We can have a lively discussion of two sides without inciting anger.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[JR8]

Oh my....

JR8....
I give up arguing with you about environment. let the plastic bags go to hell...
But you completely missed "fair game" in my post. I did not compare single CM with what Germany and Japan did, acutally the whole war.
I was trying to say the Iraq war was the biggest mistake. In future, the new super power can also find an unfounded excuse to start a war in a country and invite their fellows to join in them?

Who's arguing? I thought we were just having a discussion!

For what ever reason I do not know much about the Plame affair. Probably because it is (?) just another liberal conspiracy, and they do not hold my interest. Politics is a dirty game, that is not exactly news.

If this is going down the road of illegal wars and 'Oh my God Republicans are so low IQ' then maybe it should be carried over to a new thread?

[JR8]

Oh my...
Now you have to deal with JR8. He will give you lessons from basic, intermediate to advanced... Or you just go through all the posts in this thread. Enjoy!

[x9200]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... green.html

Why you need to use your ‘environmentally friendly’ cotton carrier bag 171 times to be green


Carrier bag holders: More energy goes into making a cloth bag than a polythene one

Cotton bags offered by many supermarkets may be less 'green' than plastic carriers - and may cause more global warming, according to scientists.

As a greater amount of energy goes into making a cloth carrier than a polythene one, a cotton bag has to be used 171 times before it has the same environmental impact than its plastic counterpart

And if a plastic bag is re-used as a bin liner, a cotton bag has to be used 327 times - nearly every day of the year - before its ecological impact is as low as a plastic bag on a host of factors including greenhouse gas emissions over its lifetime.

1 standard CS cotton bag equals possibly 5 plastic bags and I don't think this is only CS and Singapore. Did I miss a part where they addressed this?

[beppi]

Oh my...
Now you have to deal with JR8. He will give you lessons from basic, intermediate to advanced... Or you just go through all the posts in this thread. Enjoy!

I like your sense of humour - quite unexpected for a Chinese AND for somebody who lived in Germany 9 years!

(I am German myself, and I don't even know how to SMILE!)

[JR8]

Oh my...
Now you have to deal with JR8. He will give you lessons from basic, intermediate to advanced... Or you just go through all the posts in this thread. Enjoy!

I like your sense of humour - quite unexpected for a Chinese AND for somebody who lived in Germany 9 years!

(I am German myself, and I don't even know how to SMILE!)

+1 lol

[JR8]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... green.html

Why you need to use your ‘environmentally friendly’ cotton carrier bag 171 times to be green


Carrier bag holders: More energy goes into making a cloth bag than a polythene one

Cotton bags offered by many supermarkets may be less 'green' than plastic carriers - and may cause more global warming, according to scientists.

As a greater amount of energy goes into making a cloth carrier than a polythene one, a cotton bag has to be used 171 times before it has the same environmental impact than its plastic counterpart

And if a plastic bag is re-used as a bin liner, a cotton bag has to be used 327 times - nearly every day of the year - before its ecological impact is as low as a plastic bag on a host of factors including greenhouse gas emissions over its lifetime.

1 standard CS cotton bag equals possibly 5 plastic bags and I don't think this is only CS and Singapore. Did I miss a part where they addressed this?

Sorry I don't follow you X9. The article looks at the energy input required to manufacture a cotton shopping bag versus a plastic one. On what basis are you making the 'possibly 5' comparison?