, the blunt answer is that the majority of SGns are so busy grasping for the 5C's that they couldn't give a toss about the environment.I have to say I completely agree with the idiocy of this. If I don't get given plastic bags (London, Germany, etc) I then have to buy them. If I do, then I don't buy them.QRM wrote:They are very handy, as all the rubbish that goes down the chute needs to wrapped in a plastic bag, if the super market didn't give them out I would have to buy them anyway.
Read some articles about 5C's and etc...JR8 wrote:Well
Walk to the MRT past HDB blocks at 5am and witness the daily detritus of sanitary pads chicken bones Kleenexe and orange peel that has been thrown from windows.
It doesn't get land-filled in SG... probably Indon.
2 weeks in? You better get used to the 'me me me culture'.
But the landfill should not be used for the plastic bags, right?JR8 wrote:I have to say I completely agree with the idiocy of this. If I don't get given plastic bags (London, Germany, etc) I then have to buy them. If I do, then I don't buy them.QRM wrote:They are very handy, as all the rubbish that goes down the chute needs to wrapped in a plastic bag, if the super market didn't give them out I would have to buy them anyway.
My useage of plastic is the same.
Eau2011 wrote:Read some articles about 5C's and etc...JR8 wrote:Well
Walk to the MRT past HDB blocks at 5am and witness the daily detritus of sanitary pads chicken bones Kleenexe and orange peel that has been thrown from windows.
It doesn't get land-filled in SG... probably Indon.
2 weeks in? You better get used to the 'me me me culture'.
Thought you'll get fined if you throw anything in a public places? So what is this scenario at 5am around HDB blocks?
Only if there is someone to catch you. Behaviour is moderated by fines. No risk of fines...? who cares? In fact the cynic in me suggests that some SGns probably enjoy the kiasuism of throwing trash knowing that they will not be caught.
Yes, I will get used to the me me culture, though I don't really know what it means.
Oh dear, not trolling are you?
--- But the landfill should not be used for the plastic bags, right?
What do you throw rubbish out in in Germany? > Plastic bags. Where do they go? > landfill.
Eau2011 wrote:Read some articles about 5C's and etc...JR8 wrote:Well
Walk to the MRT past HDB blocks at 5am and witness the daily detritus of sanitary pads chicken bones Kleenexe and orange peel that has been thrown from windows.
It doesn't get land-filled in SG... probably Indon.
2 weeks in? You better get used to the 'me me me culture'.
Thought you'll get fined if you throw anything in a public places? So what is this scenario at 5am around HDB blocks?
Only if there is someone to catch you. Behaviour is moderated by fines. No risk of fines...? who cares? In fact the cynic in me suggests that some SGns probably enjoy the kiasuism of throwing trash knowing that they will not be caught.
Sure, behaviours are moderated by fines, crime is moderated by law, not much different.
Yes, I will get used to the me me culture, though I don't really know what it means.
Oh dear, not trolling are you?
seriously
--- But the landfill should not be used for the plastic bags, right?
What do you throw rubbish out in in Germany? > Plastic bags. Where do they go? > landfill.
I guess there is recycling, or am I wrong?
[/quote]Eau2011 wrote: Read some articles about 5C's and etc...
Thought you'll get fined if you throw anything in a public places? So what is this scenario at 5am around HDB blocks?
Only if there is someone to catch you. Behaviour is moderated by fines. No risk of fines...? who cares? In fact the cynic in me suggests that some SGns probably enjoy the kiasuism of throwing trash knowing that they will not be caught.
Sure, behaviours are moderated by fines, crime is moderated by law, not much different.
Eau dearYou have moved from an essentially extremely formal and civic society to a wanton Chinese free-for-all. In time you will understand.
Yes, I will get used to the me me culture, though I don't really know what it means.
Oh dear, not trolling are you?
seriously
My point being you cannot 'get' something that you 'do not know what it means'!
--- But the landfill should not be used for the plastic bags, right?
What do you throw rubbish out in in Germany? > Plastic bags. Where do they go? > landfill.
I guess there is recycling, or am I wrong?
Do you think there are people at the rubbish depot who untie your plastic bags of rubbish and ensure the bags are recycled?
Even if there were, how does not giving you plastic shopping bags generate less plastic, at least for the majority who use them as trash bags?
Yup, this is how these bags are recycled - by the end consumer who uses them for his rubbish bin. As mentioned we really put them to great use by not buying regular rubbish bags instead.QRM wrote:They are very handy, as all the rubbish that goes down the chute needs to wrapped in a plastic bag, if the super market didn't give them out I would have to buy them anyway.
Trouble is that there is a total lack of joined up thinking.aster wrote:Yup, this is how these bags are recycled - by the end consumer who uses them for his rubbish bin. As mentioned we really put them to great use by not buying regular rubbish bags instead.QRM wrote:They are very handy, as all the rubbish that goes down the chute needs to wrapped in a plastic bag, if the super market didn't give them out I would have to buy them anyway.
Paper bags for organic waste, at least a few hundreds of thousands plastic bags less.JR8 wrote:Trouble is that there is a total lack of joined up thinking.aster wrote:Yup, this is how these bags are recycled - by the end consumer who uses them for his rubbish bin. As mentioned we really put them to great use by not buying regular rubbish bags instead.QRM wrote:They are very handy, as all the rubbish that goes down the chute needs to wrapped in a plastic bag, if the super market didn't give them out I would have to buy them anyway.
If people don't get carrier bags at the shop, what will they throw rubbish out in? Er, they will have to buy plastic bags.
If people drive electric cars where does the power come from? Er, coal fired power stations.
Because wind power is not predictable, that supply is not dependable and so what is the result? Er, coal, gas and nuclear have to run at full capacity as a back-up 24/7/365.
Joined up thinking? Bureaucrats tick their own single box and declare the job is done. It is moronic, and expensive.
Surprisingly most 'sheeple' seem happy even eager to go along with this nonsense.
I live in Germany, and I have never seen a paper bag! Last time I saw a paper bag was in NYC where at check out they routinely ask if you want 'paper or plastic?'. Dang, those Americans are so environmentally responsibleEau2011 wrote:Paper bags for organic waste, at least a few hundreds of thousands plastic bags less.JR8 wrote:Trouble is that there is a total lack of joined up thinking.aster wrote: Yup, this is how these bags are recycled - by the end consumer who uses them for his rubbish bin. As mentioned we really put them to great use by not buying regular rubbish bags instead.
If people don't get carrier bags at the shop, what will they throw rubbish out in? Er, they will have to buy plastic bags.
If people drive electric cars where does the power come from? Er, coal fired power stations.
Because wind power is not predictable, that supply is not dependable and so what is the result? Er, coal, gas and nuclear have to run at full capacity as a back-up 24/7/365.
Joined up thinking? Bureaucrats tick their own single box and declare the job is done. It is moronic, and expensive.
Surprisingly most 'sheeple' seem happy even eager to go along with this nonsense.
Even cities like Shanghai and Shenzhen so far as I know, ask their citizens using textile bags in supermarkets, though China got many places for landfill, well, 1,4 billion ppl...
I should name you as the UN minister of environment.
I absolutely agree with you. But it seems the e-car market should have its advantage by using renewable energy.
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