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What happen if renounce singapore ctizenship not success ?

Postby immigration0125 » Thu, 17 Feb 2011 4:06 am

If ICA reject my male cousin renounciation of singapore citizenship application as he already got the malaysia citizenship and passport.

If he has no intention to return singapore. For the seek of malaysia, he willing to give up his CPF money

Is there any impact will bring to his malaysia citizenship ?
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Re: What happen if renounce singapore ctizenship not success

Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 17 Feb 2011 5:09 am

immigration0125 wrote:If ICA reject my male cousin renounciation of singapore citizenship application as he already got the malaysia citizenship and passport.

If he has no intention to return singapore. For the seek of malaysia, he willing to give up his CPF money

Is there any impact will bring to his malaysia citizenship ?


You need to clarify on "for the seek of malaysia" ?? I do not comprehend

Furthermore you need to tell me how did he came about being rejected ?

I cannot second guess as misinformation to you and others that are reading this thread could mislead others for the wrong information that I provide.

Need more info pls ...
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Postby immigration0125 » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 3:29 am

He got an exempted NS service certificate since year 2004

Because the age of sign-on NS is vaild till the age of 40, since he is below 40, would government stop his renounciation ?

Senario 1 :

If singaproe withhold his renounciation application after he returned singapore passport and IC

Would the malaysia citizenship he currently holding be affact ?
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Re: renounce

Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 3:44 am

I am struggling to understand your post. I will take a pot shot on this because of your limited info.

immigration0125 wrote:He got an exempted NS service certificate since year 2004

Did he recieved the disharge letter from Mindef. What pes is he classified ? Pes E or what ??

Because the age of sign-on NS is vaild till the age of 40, since he is below 40, would government stop his renounciation ?

Answer the above first , then I will advise you



YOU NEED TO EXPLAINED IN PLAIN ENGLISH AS OTHER WHO READ MIGHT BE MISLEAD BY MY INFO . please repost with clarity on what you are after

Senario 1 :

If singaproe withhold his renounciation application after he returned singapore passport and IC


Would the malaysia citizenship he currently holding be affact ?
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Postby immigration0125 » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 5:05 am

He got a Pes F and received a green color certificate which stated :

The enlisment act (CAP.93)
Notice of exemption

1) You are hereby notifiec that under section 29 of the enlistment act (CAP.93) you are exempted from :

A) Full time national service
B)Operationally ready national service
C) Duty to obtain an exit permit

This exemption shall take effect from year 2004 and shall apply unless subsequently revoked by the proper authority as and when deemed fit
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Re: renounce

Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 5:12 am

Ah.... better now.

immigration0125 wrote:
He got an exempted NS service certificate since year 2004
Because the age of sign-on NS is vaild till the age of 40, since he is below 40, would government stop his renounciation ?

No, he can renounce NOW. No problem as he is PES F.

Senario 1 :

If singaproe withhold his renounciation application after he returned singapore passport and IC

When you submit the renounciation docs, you have to surrender your Pink IC and SG PP

Would the malaysia citizenship he currently holding be affact ?

Maybe yes , maybe no

You need to read this if you falls into this category
http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/CPF/my-cpf/Overseas/LivO9.htm

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Postby immigration0125 » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 5:27 am

Upon the time to apply renounciation of citizenship, he returned his passport and IC to ICA

Do he still consider as a singaporean?, even if the renounciation not succeed


Because i have no idea on the following statement......


You are hereby notified that under section 29 of the enlistment act,

you are exempted from :

C) Duty to obatin an exit permit
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Re: renounce singapore

Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 5:56 am

immigration0125 wrote:Upon the time to apply renounciation of citizenship, he returned his passport and IC to ICA

Do he still consider as a singaporean?, even if the renounciation not succeed

Until such time ICA replied to you that your renounciation is accepted. Only then you are considered a foreigner.
During the submission which takes exactly 6 weeks upon receipt of renunciation papers by the ICA which includes surrenderring your SG PP and IC, you cannot travel on SG PP nor the IC since you do not have it with you, you are still a Sger.
You have to use your Foreign PP if need to travel out of SG. If application is not approve ,your SG PP and IC will be returned to you or self collect and CAB ICA Kallang

Because i have no idea on the following statement......


You are hereby notified that under section 29 of the enlistment act,

you are exempted from :

C) Duty to obatin an exit permit


it means you do NOT have to apply for Exit Permit even if you are out of SG for more than 3 months. All NS Reservist and Pre enlistees required to apply for Exit Permit if out of SG for more than 3 months.
In your case, you are discharge from NS duties. No problem
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Postby immigration0125 » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 6:12 am

Thanks for your inform
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form to apply renounce of singapore

Postby immigration0125 » Mon, 21 Feb 2011 7:33 am

I facing a problem of the application form to renoucne singapore.

They ask for the employment history of worked in singapore.

Why they asking such a question

Are they going to check with our previously employer about us ?
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Re: form to apply renounce of singapore

Postby Mad Scientist » Mon, 21 Feb 2011 8:26 am

immigration0125 wrote:I facing a problem of the application form to renoucne singapore.

They ask for the employment history of worked in singapore.

Why they asking such a question

Are they going to check with our previously employer about us ?


Ah....... Welcome to the REAL WORLD of SINGAPORE GAHMEN POLICY

Everybody that wants to renounce goes thru these. Some of the question are really VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY STUPID.

Wait till you see some other questions on some applications.

You want to renounce, you have to fill up all those questions.

I really do not know why Gahmen pose these kind of questions other than to make you angry and fed up.

Calm yourself down and just fill in to the best of your knowledge.

Do you have a choice ? I do not think so.
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Postby Koalabear » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:58 pm

If it is me, I will just answer back with very very stupid answers. What are they gonna do? not let me renounce lol?! :P

I mean come on..... everyone knows the inherent flaws of a small country and there are ALWAYS people seeking greener pasture.

Regardless of how much data govt collects on why Singaporeans leave its always down to the fact that Singapore lacks the intrinsic wealth other countries have. Simple as THAT! Stop wasting people's time to fill these stupid fck reasons and their scholar's time to analyze these reasons when there is only ONE SOURCE REASON!

Rant finished.

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Re: form to apply renounce of singapore

Postby nakatago » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 1:02 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:Everybody that wants to renounce goes thru these. Some of the question are really VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY STUPID.
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I was a teacher once and my fellow faculty have always said:

"There is no such thing as a stupid question."


But Mr. Garrison from South Park goes beyond that:

"There's no such as stupid questions, only stupid people."


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Re: form to apply renounce of singapore

Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 1:32 pm

nakatago wrote:
Mad Scientist wrote:Everybody that wants to renounce goes thru these. Some of the question are really VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY STUPID.
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I was a teacher once and my fellow faculty have always said:



I did not realize you were a teacher once. That is news to me.

What did the teacher tell the student about the rules of the land?

Rule No.1 : Gahmen is VERY VERY VERY STUPID

Rule No.2 : If not sure, go to RUle No. 1

:P :P
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Postby ev-disinfection » Fri, 25 Feb 2011 2:03 pm

My take on the Stupid questions is :
if you cannot answer them = you may leave
if you can answer them = renunciation - not approved - you cannot leave, and will have to be in SG forever..... :twisted: :cool:

reminds me of the song.....
"Last thing I remember, I was Running for the door
I had to find the passage back To the place I was before
’relax,’ said the night man, We are programmed to receive.
You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!"

Eagles


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