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Postby Calmday » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 8:04 am

Mary Hatch Bailey wrote:Ya, the 6,000 people who aren't killed each year are really bummed out about that.

Silly, indeed.
As a former Fire Fighter / EMT I have to say that this is a most excellent post.

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 8:13 am

Mary Hatch Bailey wrote:
Sad Panda wrote:And you can blame MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) for all the silly alcohol rules we have here stateside.


Ya, the 6,000 people who aren't killed each year are really bummed out about that.

Silly, indeed.


Could you run that by me in English please? :???:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 9:00 am

Actually, it made perfect sense. :-|

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 9:05 am

Sorry (shakes head).

You have statistics of numbers that haven't occured?

How does that work?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 9:33 am

They use the SingStat method. Pick a number or percentage at random. 97.34% of the time they are wrong. See how I just picked the percentage at random? :wink:

Of course, they can hypothesize that the average number killed by intoxicated drivers before MADD and the average number killed after the advent of MADD was due to the influence of MADD. But I like the SingStat method better, the whole thing is fabricated.

I actually thought you didn't understand her oblique method of writing the statement. ](*,)

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Postby Calmday » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:25 am

JR8 wrote:Sorry (shakes head).

You have statistics of numbers that haven't occured?

How does that work?
Ya good point. But I can tell you first hand that alcohol kills a sh!* load of people. Worst part is that the drunk guy or girl usually lives.
Either way it really doesn’t have anything to do with people walking around with a beer (which is completely legal in Texas as long as you’re not on the sea wall in Galveston)

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Postby Mary Hatch Bailey » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:37 am

Since tougher legislation was passed due to pressure by groups like MADD and others, alcohol related auto fatalities have dropped 6,000 per year since 1988. Thats 138,000 lives saved due to 'silly' laws.

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Postby Sad Panda » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 1:09 pm

Wow, didn't mean to stir up the hornets nest here. Suppose thats the innate problem with communication online. I didn't mean to imply that all of the laws were silly. Just that the silly ones were silly; e.g. it being illegal for me to take a beer from the bar to the outside beer garden.
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Postby JR8 » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 6:28 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:They use the SingStat method. Pick a number or percentage at random. 97.34% of the time they are wrong. See how I just picked the percentage at random? :wink:

Of course, they can hypothesize that the average number killed by intoxicated drivers before MADD and the average number killed after the advent of MADD was due to the influence of MADD. But I like the SingStat method better, the whole thing is fabricated.

I actually thought you didn't understand her oblique method of writing the statement. ](*,)


At first I didn't understand it. On pondering it I realised what was being suggested, but I don't think it valid stating it as if were a definitive statistic. Does it take into account improvements in vehicle safety (air-bags, tyre technology, crumple zones)? One could argue that a body that pioneers a cause has a vested interest in trying to show they are successful, and so to what extent can we rely on figures from MADD to determine the success of their work?

Still, I realise that MHB was simply trying to make a point. And it was c. 2am here when I read it :)

p.s. I like the SingStat method! I also like the strong correlation between the US per capita consumption rate of hamburgers and life expectency :)

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Postby Sad Panda » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:21 pm

/offtopic

@JR8 you probably do have something there with that hamburger stat. Especially if that hamburger is from a fast food chain. There just is something wrong with a hamburger that only costs a dollar.
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Postby Brah » Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:52 pm

SE, It's been a long time since I lived there, but I'd guess there's more reverse racism now and less of the old skool stuff.

Strong Eagle wrote:And BTW, I'd bet money that he will not get the H1B necessary to work in the US... and that has nothing to do with racism... well, actually it does but on a different level and for a different reason.

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:22 am

Sad Panda wrote:/offtopic

@JR8 you probably do have something there with that hamburger stat. Especially if that hamburger is from a fast food chain. There just is something wrong with a hamburger that only costs a dollar.


No seriously it is a good example of the potential to misuse statistics, as on the face of it suggests eating hamburgers makes you live longer. Fun eh? :)

Agreed re: $1 burgers, I'd not go there myself. I remember walking into a branch of White Castle in Brooklyn just to read the menu out of interest, and seeing that you could buy burgers by the 'sack'!

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Postby bluenose » Sun, 20 Feb 2011 4:01 pm

Being very clever and moving to the USA should not be in the same sentence :wink:

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Re: Give me advice about moving to USA

Postby JayCee » Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:42 am

IOP wrote:I simply like to live with European-style people.


And so you decided you want to live in America? :?

Yeah, you're "very clever" :roll:

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Postby bigfilsing » Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:15 pm

so go live in Europe :D

not all of them have style but there are more "European style people there"

Plus points
When somebody says they are Irish or Scottish they probably are!
You don't have to worry about morons voting Saran Pailin into power.
They have a real history and culture not one they decided was theres from picture books.

Saved the best for last. With your attitude you'll get a damn good kickin in no time :D

Heh maybe the USA is for you after all.

Good luck


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