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Can I get 90 day visa back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back?

Postby SecretSauce » Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:17 am

I'm American and arrived on a 90 day visa on arrival or whatever they call it. When my 90-days are up can I just cross the border and re-enter the same day for a fresh 90 days? If so, how many times can you do it without problems? Do people do this for years like in Thailand?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 12 Feb 2011 1:19 am

Not in SG. You can only do it once Then you have to return to port of departure, or a 5 days turnaround but you will get another 30 days and you have to extend it at ICA for another 60 days. After that you have to return for at least a month approx. before re entering
This is to prevent foreigners from moonlighting. If you keep on doing this , ICA officer will pick it up and you may be barred from entering for at least 2 to 5 years if your explanation is not satisfactory enough.

If you wanted to explore business opportunity or stay more than the said standard BOG length, do it legally . go to www.ica.gov.sg

Look for LTSVP application
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Postby SecretSauce » Sat, 12 Feb 2011 1:51 am

Bummer. Thanks for the info.

Visitors who are Holders of Foreign-Issued Educational Certificate Seeking Employment in Singapore


It appears the only qualification for this is a degree?

How long is this pass good for? Website doesn't say...

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 12 Feb 2011 2:18 am

I repeatedly entered the US on the Visa Waiver Scheme (for c. 2 years).... but at least I took a gap of at least a month away every time each 90 days.

Last time I went in they accused me of working there illegally (it was more simple, I was in love).

Rightly or wrongly the SGns are not patsies either. Bummer eh?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 12 Feb 2011 6:43 am

SecretSauce wrote:Bummer. Thanks for the info.

Visitors who are Holders of Foreign-Issued Educational Certificate Seeking Employment in Singapore


It appears the only qualification for this is a degree?

How long is this pass good for? Website doesn't say...


It all depends, a stretch can be from 6 months to 5 years with various degrees of criterias set upon.
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Postby darkofive » Sat, 11 Jun 2011 1:59 am

Can the 5 day turnaround be somewhere in Asia or does it have to be in country of departure?

So after spent 90 days in the country, how long until you can go back?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 11 Jun 2011 6:21 pm

darkofive wrote:Can the 5 day turnaround be somewhere in Asia or does it have to be in country of departure?

So after spent 90 days in the country, how long until you can go back?


This is the sticking point as we have conflicting views. IMHO it all depends what PP you are holding and if you are not one of those countries that require VISA application prior arrival.

Hence if you are not the above a 5 days turn around in Asia should be sufficient. Moreover if you are a tourist this should not be an issue

If you are here or from the Level I countries stipulated by ICA or you have been doing a runner to JB or Batam every so often, it is best to return to your own country and come back after 6 months
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Postby darkofive » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 6:38 am

Well I get 90 days on arrival, and after spending 90 days in Spore, can I go back after a 5 day turn around.
I _AM_ a tourist, I have no illegal job or anything there, just free time and cash to spend.

However I do write software for myself. Not for a client or for anyone else.
Could I get in trouble if I were to sell this software in the future or something like that?

Say I am doing some software for App-store.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 6:56 am

Yep, you can get into trouble.

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Postby darkofive » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 6:59 am

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not :)
I've seem some of your older responses (especially the recent one with the guy scared of doing NS)

Anyway I guess there is no point of doing proprietary code, what about open source.

If I just hang out at coffee shops and write open source stuff or proof of concept code?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 8:09 am

darkofive wrote:I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not :)
I've seem some of your older responses (especially the recent one with the guy scared of doing NS)

Anyway I guess there is no point of doing proprietary code, what about open source.

If I just hang out at coffee shops and write open source stuff or proof of concept code?


Are you referring to SMS or me on how you percieve of us being sarcastic or our scarcasm remarks ?

If you are a tourist why would you want to get yourself entangle with the law.
We only interprete what the law stated ? If you are selling software then you need a license and EP to be able to do this if not you do not want to flout the law.
We cannot and do not encourage anything that is against the law of the land as it is detrimental to this forum credibility.

Am I right , SMS ??
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 9:38 am

MS - spot on. And darkofive, I wasn't being sarcastic. Just blunt.

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Postby carteki » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:16 am

darkofive please heed what SMS and MS have to say. They have lived here a long time and know how things are and work. If the answer was not to your liking please don't shoot the messenger(s).

I find your post very strange in that you are trying to come and live in Singapore without explaining what ties you have to Singapore. Were this about living in Thailand I wouldn't bat an eyelid - but spending all day hanging around in coffee shops in Singapore gets expensive. At some point during your visa-runs someone is going to ask questions about how you're funding your stay and why you keep coming back (if not to work).

You can apply for a LTVP to live in Singapore (up to a year) and your case will be strengthened by proving your means to live on or some ties to Singapore such as a local sponsor who will take responsibility for you.

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Postby darkofive » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 3:47 pm

Because I like the fact that people here speak English.
And there are local hackerspace and other events. Not sure Thailand has that.

I will do non-profitable work that isn't affiliated with anyone. What I will do is going to be free for everyone to use and/or sell and/or use in stuff they sell.

Still a problem?

Sorry if I sound like I am trying to walls around the problem.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Mon, 13 Jun 2011 4:16 pm

Yup samo samo reply from me. Big Problem even NGO or Volunteer work.
You need to register yourself. As a tourist, you are on social visit which means doing only SOCIAL THINGS
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