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MOE Salary for foreign teachers

Postby finmadden » Wed, 02 Feb 2011 2:51 am

Hi,
I've had a tentative offer from the MOE, but they haven't sent me a package yet. I have another job offer, and I need to make up my mind quickly.

Are the working conditions at the MOE for a history teacher fair?

What would the salary be like?

Do they offer something to help pay for housing?

What type of apartment does a foreign MOE teacher usually live in?

Thanks

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 02 Feb 2011 6:51 am

a quick search of the forum using the excellent search facility here (just below the "Profile" link at the upper right side of the page) will turn up a number of discussions on this very subject. See posts by k1w1 in particular.

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Postby scarbowl » Wed, 02 Feb 2011 3:48 pm

I would think that a valid offer would include salary and allowance amounts. Are you sure you've received one?

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Postby yulaoshi » Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:32 am

How do you apply MOE?

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Re: MOE Salary for foreign teachers

Postby k1w1 » Thu, 17 Feb 2011 4:02 pm

finmadden wrote:Hi,
I've had a tentative offer from the MOE, but they haven't sent me a package yet. I have another job offer, and I need to make up my mind quickly.

Are the working conditions at the MOE for a history teacher fair?

What would the salary be like?

Do they offer something to help pay for housing?

What type of apartment does a foreign MOE teacher usually live in?

Thanks


Not sure if you're still reading, but the offer from the MOE will not be very good. Their pay is pretty meagre and they expect more than a pound of flesh for it. Burnout is pretty high.

I would strongly suggest you target the International Schools.

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MOE Salary for foreign teachers

Postby PED » Fri, 18 Feb 2011 6:53 am

K1w1 is correct.

Foreign teachers employed by MOE are on a scale only marginally (and a small margin at that) above local staff. Participation in all co curricular and extra curricular activities is expected and the contact teaching hours are quite demanding. International Schools may indeed be a better option.

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Re: MOE Salary for foreign teachers

Postby rFLo » Sat, 26 Feb 2011 1:51 am

finmadden wrote:Hi,
I've had a tentative offer from the MOE, but they haven't sent me a package yet. I have another job offer, and I need to make up my mind quickly.

Are the working conditions at the MOE for a history teacher fair?

What would the salary be like?

Do they offer something to help pay for housing?

What type of apartment does a foreign MOE teacher usually live in?

Thanks


I have the exact same offer. Had an interview here in Vancouver, got an email a month later saying that there was a job from me in August, but I'm still waiting for the $$$$

Doing a google search and forum search gives me mixed results. Some say pay is good, some say pay sucks. Has anybody received hard figures in a contract from MOE in their 2011 North American recruitment tour?

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Re: MOE Salary for foreign teachers

Postby rFLo » Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:06 pm

finmadden wrote:Hi,
I've had a tentative offer from the MOE, but they haven't sent me a package yet. I have another job offer, and I need to make up my mind quickly.

Are the working conditions at the MOE for a history teacher fair?

What would the salary be like?

Do they offer something to help pay for housing?

What type of apartment does a foreign MOE teacher usually live in?

Thanks


@finmadden
did you hear back from MOE? I'm still waiting. When did they say your start date is?

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Postby weareone » Wed, 09 Mar 2011 1:10 pm

is certificate of Diploma in Teacher Training (LTTC, UK) recognized to seeking jobs in ternational school?

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Postby Ginner-Sg » Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:04 pm

weareone wrote:is certificate of Diploma in Teacher Training (LTTC, UK) recognized to seeking jobs in ternational school?




Oooooooooooo i've just done that. Aswell as my Cert IV. :) Private schools maybe. Good luck

P.S American or British? :shock:

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Re: MOE Salary for foreign teachers

Postby k1w1 » Sun, 13 Mar 2011 4:47 am

rFLo wrote:
finmadden wrote:Hi,
I've had a tentative offer from the MOE, but they haven't sent me a package yet. I have another job offer, and I need to make up my mind quickly.

Are the working conditions at the MOE for a history teacher fair?

What would the salary be like?

Do they offer something to help pay for housing?

What type of apartment does a foreign MOE teacher usually live in?

Thanks


I have the exact same offer. Had an interview here in Vancouver, got an email a month later saying that there was a job from me in August, but I'm still waiting for the $$$$

Doing a google search and forum search gives me mixed results. Some say pay is good, some say pay sucks. Has anybody received hard figures in a contract from MOE in their 2011 North American recruitment tour?


I don't know what the offer is for this year, but it has traditionally been in the region of $2500-3000 per month, with about $500-800 for housing. No matter what they tell you about locals living on that amount, bear in mind that you will not have the same subsidies/benefits available to Singaporeans (which is fair enough).

If you are a registered teacher in your home country, contact the International Schools. The lowest paying schools will offer more far than $3800 a month and will also include a housing supplement on top of this (and when your only option for housing in Singapore is to rent on the volatile, extremely expensive private market, this is an absolute necessity).

The MOE are also fairly famous for doing things like scheduling compulsory staff meetings during term breaks, making a holiday impossible. They also require staff to apply for permission to leave Singapore. Principals can (and do) deny these applications without any reason.

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Postby S.scsc » Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:38 pm

Basically, the salary is low starting from s$2500 and goes up according to number of years of work experience. There is no housing allowance ! Before they gave $1500 per month now 0 ! If you have a 3 year contract, it is usually what they offer, you don't have pay rise . Singaporeans do have pay rise every year but not foreigners! Foreigners and Singaporeans are subject to bonuses. Medical care is quite expensive is Singapore, MOE pays only around s$200 per year.
MOE give you the job but you have no ides of the package because it is low and shit ! You don't have annual return to home country but only at the end of your contract so basically if you have a 3 year contract , you're f@@ked!
You have to ask for permission to leave Singapore even if you go to Malaysia on the weekend ! You need the approval of your principal. They can ask you to work during holidays , which is very common!
You have to contribute to CCA ( extra-curricular activities, even on saturdays !), long meetings for no reasons !
Housing is expensive ! Forget living on your own ! HDB 2 bedroom flat in good condition is around s$1700 -s$2000. A studio is around s$1500. No one bedroom flat , studios are quite expensive. condo are expensive too, s$2200 minimun for a 2 bedroom flat.

So if you earn s$3000 per month and housing is s$1500, you don't survive !!! MOE should pay foreigners much more as they need them ! What happens as a consequence, lot of teachers do one year and leave because of the pay !

Don't wait for MOE to send you their rubbish package! Apply for an International School were they give you all the benefit you deserve as a foreigner !

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Postby ksl » Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:55 am

These kind of bushibans specialising in English earn pretty good between 4k and 5 with experience! I know because I was talking with my daughters teacher about it and this was in Nov 2009
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Postby k1w1 » Thu, 31 Mar 2011 5:53 am

ksl wrote:These kind of bushibans specialising in English earn pretty good between 4k and 5 with experience! I know because I was talking with my daughters teacher about it and this was in 2008


Is that what she'd heard, or is that what she earned?

Anyway you look at it, 4k is a pretty piss-poor existence in Singapore when you have to pay everything out of that. (I find 5k very hard to believe). Most local teachers I've met earn more like $3-3.5k.

(What's a bushiban?)

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Postby ksl » Thu, 31 Mar 2011 5:12 pm

k1w1 wrote:
ksl wrote:These kind of bushibans specialising in English earn pretty good between 4k and 5 with experience! I know because I was talking with my daughters teacher about it and this was in 2008


Is that what she'd heard, or is that what she earned?

Anyway you look at it, 4k is a pretty piss-poor existence in Singapore when you have to pay everything out of that. (I find 5k very hard to believe). Most local teachers I've met earn more like $3-3.5k.

(What's a bushiban?)
In Taiwan there are hundreds of these Bushibans and quite a few here in Singapore too where Chinese children go to study English and other subjects. Easy to get teaching jobs in Taiwan even without being a teacher. Singapore different. I posted a reply on another thread long time ago, the teacher who was teaching my daughter told me as i was thinking of doing the course through the British council as i was bored and the certificate comes in very handy while travelling.

The teacher eventually left for higher income over 5K, so you need to do your homework in this area of teaching for native speakers income varies quite a lot. Though local schools is bad.

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Bushiban are cram schools: Cram schools are specialized schools that train their students to meet particular goals, most commonly to pass the entrance examinations of high schools or universities. The English name is derived from the slang term "cramming," meaning to study hard or to study a large amount of material in a short period of time. Though the Chinese are quite gifted with memory and will learn parrot fashion very easy, without understanding. This is due to the complexity of not only learning 1.400 characters, or many more but to remembering the stroke order too, with some characters having more than 30 strokes.


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