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Postby nakatago » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 9:20 am

Eighty baby but daddy being a huge Beatles fan, grew up listening to them too, mixed with some American "folk" music. Then 1994 happened and suddenly there were bands everywhere. Started discovering slightly obscure bands. And then, there's this little known band--you may have heard of them--Led Zeppelin.

So, when someone whom I know isn't into rock asks me what I listen to, so that I'd sound cool, I'd say "Led Zep."

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@JR8: I won't post a youtube link anymore (damn you, licensing!) but just to show you something wicked, look for Apocalyptica's "Helden." It's a Finnish(?) heavy metal band that play cellos instead of guitars featuring Rammstein's Till Lindemann doing a German language cover of David Bowie's "Heroes" which incidentally was also covered by the Wallflowers which is fronted by Bob Dylan's son, Jacob Dylan.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 9:34 am

Well, in 30 minutes, my son and Caracal blast off to Toronto for the Canadian Music festival. Hopefully they get some good exposure.

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Postby x9200 » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:01 am

Addadude wrote:I listen to the Alan Parsons Project pretty regularly even today.

... one of my favourites too.
Are we getting already nostalgic? and more importantly what happened to filial piety? :)

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:12 am

x9200 wrote:
Addadude wrote:I listen to the Alan Parsons Project pretty regularly even today.

... one of my favourites too.
Are we getting already nostalgic? and more importantly what happened to filial piety? :)


Jethro Tull... yes, excellent, seen them live erm 4 or so times.
Alan Parsons Project... hmmm, names familiar will have to check em out. Might be one of those life long sleepers that rears up and bites yer.
Good luck to Caracal in Canada, I really hope they ROCK the house :)
Apocalyptica? Okey dokey that is pretty far out. Appreciate that Ramstein are like Metallica with heavy German accents... but with cellos? hehehe...

p.s. Filial Piety? Feck that, music is much less divisive :lol: :wink:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:34 pm

Damn Straight! Beethoven rocks! :cool:

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:42 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Damn Straight! Beethoven rocks! :cool:


Maybe not so "divisive" but a bit controntational--more cello goodness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlVbEclPj4c

Duelling cellos. Winner gets to play a cool instrument.

(IMHO: it's one of Jacko's songs that isn't too 'pop')

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:22 am

Interesting to start with but the over-acting is soon painful.

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Postby tyianchang » Sat, 12 Mar 2011 5:08 pm

Somewhere, in a corner of Qu Fu, a group of mod rockers staged a pop concert to live out their nostalgic pursuits of days gone by. All agreeable with the sage who called for music to his rites anyway.
Haydn and Beethoven were great composers; the former at classical and the later found himself linking up with the romantic era. Both were treated like servants inspite of their genuises. Haydyn, true to his classical ( and Confucian) restraint, graceciousness and gentlemanly steps, continued with startling vibrancy in the sonatas. But Beethoven filled his notes with the roars of thunder and pushed the classical period into the romantic like a tsunami after the earthquake of Robespierre and the French revolution. " Roll over, Beethoven," clapped SMS, the classic American rocker - err what instrument did he play? Probably a trombone with a brass band which the sage's grandson is fond of when he plays the xbox.
( A reincarnation time line authorising the grammatical license )
After the short entertainment, the twin of trees, now over 2500 years old, spoke, "Now, we can hear the wind after the imbeciles and their youthfulness." (winking at ksl).
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Postby QRM » Sat, 12 Mar 2011 6:29 pm

Anyone fancies a cadbury fruit and nut or rabbit stew?

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Postby k1w1 » Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:33 am

Going back to the original topic somewhat... This is big news in New Zealand today: parents of the Chinese students who were killed in the ChCh quake are demanding extra compensation from the New Zealand government (more than everyone else and more than they are currently receiving) because they not only lost their children, but also their retirement income.

The arrogance of assuming only Chinese kids support their elderly parents, and only Chinese families lost their one kid, is mind-boggling. As is the insistence that Chinese parents deserve more money than other parents who lost their children:

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-wo ... 1btrn.html

Some of these kids are still laying in fallen buildings and the recovered bodies have not been returned to families, and here these parents are screaming about losing their cushy retirement plans.

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Postby earthfriendly » Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14 pm

Do these parents have physical disabilities that prevent them from re-entering the work force? Hailing from China they may encounter language barrier in NZ. But then there's always the possibility of returning to China to re-start their lives there. It is a tough situation to be in but life is not perfect.

Many retirees in USA too have to make that difficult choices. And some have to eat cat food. Life is not perfect. No system is perfect, including FP. You have got to do what you've got to do. These people have to learn to chill out.

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Postby k1w1 » Mon, 14 Mar 2011 1:14 pm

The parents are in China and had sent their kids to NZ to study. International tuition fees and board obviously does not come cheap, so these are not poor village people or anything.

What I found disgusting was the belief that they'd lost more than other families because they expect their kids to pay for them as they get older. And that they'd already considered the financial loss of "their investment".

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 14 Mar 2011 1:20 pm

k1w1 wrote:Going back to the original topic somewhat... This is big news in New Zealand today: parents of the Chinese students who were killed in the ChCh quake are demanding extra compensation from the New Zealand government (more than everyone else and more than they are currently receiving) because they not only lost their children, but also their retirement income.

The arrogance of assuming only Chinese kids support their elderly parents, and only Chinese families lost their one kid, is mind-boggling. As is the insistence that Chinese parents deserve more money than other parents who lost their children:

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-wo ... 1btrn.html

Some of these kids are still laying in fallen buildings and the recovered bodies have not been returned to families, and here these parents are screaming about losing their cushy retirement plans.



How crass, and yet somehow not altogether surprising.

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Postby earthfriendly » Mon, 14 Mar 2011 1:39 pm

A very dark and ugly side of FP. And yes, I have heard of seniors who felt it a shame to have to work for $ in their old age. Why? Doing an honest day of work and earning your own keep, so much pride and fulfillment in itself. What is so wrong with this idea? These people are indoctrinated beyond redemption. And this human need to rely on someone else or a system or tradition to tell them how to live their life, despite its failings, rather than using their own intellect. This news story is clearly a case of people blindly following their tradition rather than being rational and reasonable.

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Postby Mary Hatch Bailey » Mon, 14 Mar 2011 2:40 pm

k1w1 wrote:Going back to the original topic somewhat... This is big news in New Zealand today: parents of the Chinese students who were killed in the ChCh quake are demanding extra compensation from the New Zealand government (more than everyone else and more than they are currently receiving) because they not only lost their children, but also their retirement income.

The arrogance of assuming only Chinese kids support their elderly parents, and only Chinese families lost their one kid, is mind-boggling. As is the insistence that Chinese parents deserve more money than other parents who lost their children:

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-wo ... 1btrn.html

Some of these kids are still laying in fallen buildings and the recovered bodies have not been returned to families, and here these parents are screaming about losing their cushy retirement plans.


My God! but that's distasteful. Hard to justify people's motivations sometimes. :?


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