
Hmmm. My parents are roughly the same age (both above 80) and guess what, they refused to activate the Internet connection at their home. They've got all the infrastructure ready so just enough to call the operator and plug the RJ45 cable in. What I read between the lines is that they were afraid to be invigilated by the gahmensundaymorningstaple wrote:me mom's 84 & Dad's 85 and both are computer illiterate as well (I've wanted to try to teach mom, but she's afraid she would get into trouble with the gahmen as she hate's dem damnocrats in the Whitehouse.
I'm using Skype to make phone calls to my parents. I topped up before always in EUR.x9200 wrote:Hmmm. My parents are roughly the same age (both above 80) and guess what, they refused to activate the Internet connection at their home. They've got all the infrastructure ready so just enough to call the operator and plug the RJ45 cable in. What I read between the lines is that they were afraid to be invigilated by the gahmensundaymorningstaple wrote:me mom's 84 & Dad's 85 and both are computer illiterate as well (I've wanted to try to teach mom, but she's afraid she would get into trouble with the gahmen as she hate's dem damnocrats in the Whitehouse.It ended up with installing a mobile broadband modem in the laptop with a prepaid card so I can top it up remotely once every six month or so.
I understand how that comment could come across as heartless. Another possible interpretation is "if my child chose to protest knowing the risks and died in the process, I as a mother would grieve but not blame anyone". A Buddhist would more easily understand this attitude of acceptance and non-blame.Eau2011 wrote:Why I had to point it out because I have read her opinions about children as a mother in other posts. Especially in the post about Tiananmen, because she's pro CCP's action, I have questioned her how she will feel if her children were shot or crushed to death (after I told the story of Tiananmen mothers, they had to keep silence every June 4th.). Her answer: "I might be for or against but I would'nt blame anyone for the death of my children who took up the challenge to fight for change".
有因才有果。
I'm also not here to judge anyone. Everyone's words and actions are perfectly justified and fair from their own perspective. Nobody needs to explain their words and actions to me. Guess I'm just sticking my nose where it doesn't belong in the interest of world peaceEau2011 wrote:BTW, I was the last one who's been attacked by her in that "China" thread, before that, she attacked many others.
Well, if one has no respect for others, then he/she cannot expect respect from others. That's my motto. Fair enough?
I use my Singapore Credit Card to pay for it, but I do so behind PayPal. I use PayPal a lot as I am a collector and spend a fair amount on eBay. PayPal makes it easy as you can list several credit cards and then use one or the other as you see fit.Eau2011 wrote:I'm using Skype to make phone calls to my parents. I topped up before always in EUR.x9200 wrote:Hmmm. My parents are roughly the same age (both above 80) and guess what, they refused to activate the Internet connection at their home. They've got all the infrastructure ready so just enough to call the operator and plug the RJ45 cable in. What I read between the lines is that they were afraid to be invigilated by the gahmensundaymorningstaple wrote:me mom's 84 & Dad's 85 and both are computer illiterate as well (I've wanted to try to teach mom, but she's afraid she would get into trouble with the gahmen as she hate's dem damnocrats in the Whitehouse.It ended up with installing a mobile broadband modem in the laptop with a prepaid card so I can top it up remotely once every six month or so.
Now, I'm in SG, I checked it, there is no SGD as usable currency at Skype.Because I'd like to delete my EUR credit card in my account and add a local CC for payment.
Do you know how to do itThanks! Or it does not make much sense to add a local CC because no SGD is used anyany?
"person's guard is already up" or 草木皆兵,it's not the case this time. It was first time I read her post (without any bias) and I was just shocked.Wind In My Hair wrote:I understand how that comment could come across as heartless. Another possible interpretation is "if my child chose to protest knowing the risks and died in the process, I as a mother would grieve but not blame anyone". A Buddhist would more easily understand this attitude of acceptance and non-blame.Eau2011 wrote:Why I had to point it out because I have read her opinions about children as a mother in other posts. Especially in the post about Tiananmen, because she's pro CCP's action, I have questioned her how she will feel if her children were shot or crushed to death (after I told the story of Tiananmen mothers, they had to keep silence every June 4th.). Her answer: "I might be for or against but I would'nt blame anyone for the death of my children who took up the challenge to fight for change".
有因才有果。
I'm not here to defend Anne, just pointing out that sometimes when a person's guard is already up, words and actions can be misinterpreted.
草木皆兵。
I have PayPal account in D, but I guess I have to open a new one because the connected bank should be a local one?sundaymorningstaple wrote:I use my Singapore Credit Card to pay for it, but I do so behind PayPal. I use PayPal a lot as I am a collector and spend a fair amount on eBay. PayPal makes it easy as you can list several credit cards and then use one or the other as you see fit.Eau2011 wrote:I'm using Skype to make phone calls to my parents. I topped up before always in EUR.x9200 wrote: Hmmm. My parents are roughly the same age (both above 80) and guess what, they refused to activate the Internet connection at their home. They've got all the infrastructure ready so just enough to call the operator and plug the RJ45 cable in. What I read between the lines is that they were afraid to be invigilated by the gahmenIt ended up with installing a mobile broadband modem in the laptop with a prepaid card so I can top it up remotely once every six month or so.
Now, I'm in SG, I checked it, there is no SGD as usable currency at Skype.Because I'd like to delete my EUR credit card in my account and add a local CC for payment.
Do you know how to do itThanks! Or it does not make much sense to add a local CC because no SGD is used anyany?
Clear. I actually meant something like this. It is never black and white. Perhaps Western people are more rebellious in everyday social interactions so we more easily say no. I used to know one Chinese couple and heard many stories from her what she had to do to satisfy her MinL. No Western woman I know would accept this kind of treatment.Wind In My Hair wrote: Filial piety could mean unconditional submission, but not necessarily. For example, I could quarrel with my parents about what I want but in the end grudgingly do what they want instead. Or they could ask nothing of me and not demand submission at all, and yet I feel an unspoken obligation to do what's good for them rather than what's good for me.
Wind In My Hair wrote:I'm also not here to judge anyone. Everyone's words and actions are perfectly justified and fair from their own perspective. Nobody needs to explain their words and actions to me. Guess I'm just sticking my nose where it doesn't belong in the interest of world peaceEau2011 wrote:BTW, I was the last one who's been attacked by her in that "China" thread, before that, she attacked many others.
Well, if one has no respect for others, then he/she cannot expect respect from others. That's my motto. Fair enough?
四海之内,皆兄弟也。
I pay right now in US$ and earlier in EUR using all the time SG cards. I think it does not matter. What you lose on the currency exchange is rather negligible.Eau2011 wrote:I'm using Skype to make phone calls to my parents. I topped up before always in EUR.
Now, I'm in SG, I checked it, there is no SGD as usable currency at Skype.Because I'd like to delete my EUR credit card in my account and add a local CC for payment.
Do you know how to do itThanks! Or it does not make much sense to add a local CC because no SGD is used anyany?
I do not think so. I use my SG paypal account to pay in Europe, US and locally and actually I have more often some strange situations locally: I have 2 cards defined (amex and master) and I can use them as I want and interchangeably worldwide but some Singapore payments disable the amex option. Weird enough this is amex SG card.Eau2011 wrote: I have PayPal account in D, but I guess I have to open a new one because the connected bank should be a local one?
Ah... this feels like being in Confucius' prosecution court!Wind In My Hair wrote:Lastly, I've been trying to stay out of this but I'm getting sick of so many posters making Anneteoh / Tyianchang a punching bag. .anneteoh wrote:I mean, imagine getting such returns from your children - all of which goes without saying. A good culture to continue?
It's because of the personal nature of fights on other threads that her original post was taken in a more negative light than need have been. Just my view.
While Anne / Tyianchang has done her share of lashing out, I'm sure I would have been equally combative if I felt attacked by so many posters all at once. At the same time, if the lady feels inclined to accept some unsolicited advice, I suggest retreating a little and ceasing the personal attacks. You make many good points and once the swords and shields are laid down and the clanging quietens, perhaps everyone will hear better what you are saying.
Let's just blame Confucius for filial piety in the first place, and let him try to make amends with some of his other writings:
"The heart of a wise man should resemble a mirror, which reflects every object without being sullied by any."
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."
Sigh, another long post. I must be getting old.
That's great to know that I don't have to open a new Paypal account.x9200 wrote:I do not think so. I use my SG paypal account to pay in Europe, US and locally and actually I have more often some strange situations locally: I have 2 cards defined (amex and master) and I can use them as I want and interchangeably worldwide but some Singapore payments disable the amex option. Weird enough this is amex SG card.Eau2011 wrote: I have PayPal account in D, but I guess I have to open a new one because the connected bank should be a local one?
Your own ego-trip? See below.tyianchang wrote: Ah... this feels like being in Confucius' prosecution court!
WIMH and SMS, you make my participation in this forum worthwhile. I'm truly sorry the need to defend me rests in your just hands and erudite words; which, after a few attempts, I personally found to be a pointless chore as those posters are hell bent on distortions and rudeness. I can just imagine the audacity of someone who doesn't fully understand the subtleties of a language to start blackening another poster with her inane excuses to strut her own ego trips.
It doesn't interest me to read or bother with them It was getting tedious to deal with intentional misconceptions and extreme rudeness. But I take such bizzare posts pragmatically as that involves me in character study as well. I thought people in this distinctive forum know that greatness does not come from scheming diatribes, that are personalised attacks; that rather throw a reflection back on their own inadequacies of character. Much said.
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tyianchang wrote:Sorry, you don't impress me as one with scholarly detachment, rather an occasional need for a primal scream. I find your aggression disturbing for a psychologist and thank you, I dig Jung but you're probably Freudian. Schmuck, whatever that means. I am as predictable as your stereotyping can stretch; but really I have sensed your emotional intelligence, so just be happy with yourself and let the others find their own paths. Have you lived and searched in India? But all things considered, you're doing quite well; just don't try to sell by telling people they'rve got something missing like a front tooth when it's there. Hehehe. Have a nice day.Strong Eagle wrote:Hmmm... considering that I have made exactly two posts here, I find your term 'always' somewhat wanting.tyianchang wrote:What's this - always telling me what my beliefs should be???
The larger issue, however, is your assertion that I am telling you what your beliefs should be?
Wherever did you get this cockamamie idea? I have stated what I think to be the situation. How in the world did you interpret that I am telling you what your beliefs should be? Unless of course, your psyche is not very integrated, in which case I can understand how you might perceive my opinion as something being forced upon you.
Having done a lot of work in the area of psychological integration, I'd be more than happy to discuss with you steps you might take to become more whole; otherwise, you will spend your life, with various parts of your conscious and subconscious stuck, way back when, with predictable results... such as your interpretation that I am telling you what your beliefs should be.
tyianchang wrote: You really must learn to talk and not go nitpicking all the time. It does make you look so silly when you're really not that ridiculous you know. Goodbye.
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