One more - since you are just 22, plead ignorance, and go and do your NS - Maybe you will end up in something like Civil Defence - a friend of mine, who was born here, but parent migrated to Canada, came to work here and upon applying for his EP was asked to apply for PR, and when he went to apply PR, he was told that he will be granted PR, but do a one year stint in Civil Defense .. he did do it .. but then again, he was 34 when this happened ..Koalabear wrote:It is impossible unless:
1) Lee Kuan Yew changes his mind
2) You can prove that the government has made a mistake
3) successfully bribe some super high ranking officer to clear your name from their database
MS can you think of anything else?
One more - since you are just 22, plead ignorance, and go and do your NS - Maybe you will end up in something like Civil Defence - a friend of mine, who was born here, but parent migrated to Canada, came to work here and upon applying for his EP was asked to apply for PR, and when he went to apply PR, he was told that he will be granted PR, but do a one year stint in Civil Defense .. he did do it .. but then again, he was 34 when this happened ..[/quote]ecureilx wrote:e
MS can you think of anything else?
I am a bit wiser than that and I am the last person to pass hearsay and myths .. - the one and only case I know is from a good friend of mine, whom I keep in touch till now .. and no, not a third hand story ..Mad Scientist wrote: Posters comes here with two hands clasping and holding their hats. We are here to provide avenues or directions for them to make informed decisions. Strictly speaking forum are based on facts NOT Myth if you cannot provide one please don't, coz I will be the first one to ask you all the questions.
Maybe I should have added a few more smileysMad Scientist wrote:
Here are my questions for your friend's situation[/color]
1. One more - since you are just 22, plead ignorance,
How do you go about doing this and under which section of the law that permit ignorance as mitigating factor????
You don't easily accept alternate views, do you ??Mad Scientist wrote:Maybe you can ask Ecurelix as he seems to know more .
ecureilx wrote: Now take the case of the Piono guy who wants to come back
So the above is not related to the earlier post. Now you have 2 encounters ? No you got me confused.ecureilx wrote:
You don't easily accept alternate views, do you ??
NS issues is very close to my heart. Many forumers here knows what I meant. I have done a very extensive research from the days in the military to all the ministries that I was involved. So...... if you have something that I am not aware based on FACTS and FIGURES, then I am all ears for you. Otherwise please keep your encounters to yourself
Well, as I said, it was the one and only case I know, and if I should go on, a friend, who's wife is a Singaporean, Children born here, but living overseas, when the son reached 16, he got a letter requesting the son come here or put up a bond .. no, not another 3rd hand story .. so, yes, ICA doesn't take a dim view of those who knowingly violate the law ..
Your story differs from your earlier post stating quoted "Maybe you will end up in something like Civil Defence - a friend of mine, who was born here, but parent migrated to Canada, came to work here and upon applying for his EP was asked to apply for PR, and when he went to apply PR, he was told that he will be granted PR, but do a one year stint in Civil Defense .. "
That is totally different from what you said now. Of course before 1995 , EP requirement was at the age of 16 and a half hence they have to put up the bond for $50 K only max.. I am aware of this guideline.
But your earlier post contradicts each other. So which is which. ?
Then again, let me ask you - it says "Duty unpaid cigerettes lead to hefty fine" right ? just last week, I was returning back and a friend of mine with me had a couple of Bensons, and when the random Customs check guy opened the bag, it was right at the top - the guy just told him 'don't do it again' and let him off ..
And once i was caught with Chewing gum, and while the guy was about to go on a long-winded lecture, suddenly he lost interest and told me to leave ..
And how many times you have seen foreigners being punished with CWO for littering ?? Even though the law says CWO for littering ??? And who chooses between fine or CWO ???
Well, the law is there, and applied, but everybody has better things to do sometimes ..
Your preassumption based on encounters with the law does not equates to the law itself. The officers who was supposed to upheld the law in his/her own discretion decided NOT the pursue on the crime that has been committed whilst the law stated that a crime has been committed. This is based on the Law is backed by the power of the state to compel, to punish and coerce compensation of loss
Ethics are principles of conduct which cultures generally agree upon ... there is no state coercion involved if you don't behave in accordance with the standards.
Hence is like flipping a coin knowing full well the repercussion will be. Moreso I would advise OP not to heed your advise
Now take the case of the Piono guy who wants to come back - the ICA is adamant there is no exception as that is a 'high profile cases' since the guy knowingly scooted out of Singapore, just to avoid NS .. so "TEACH THE BASTARD A LESSON SO OTHERS DON"T FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE"
I was involved with this case.Hence your assumption is incorrect
And take Shankar Iyer case - they made a big show out of it to tell people who is the boss - and how many other molestation case gets into the news ??? Well, people do get punished, but do they make a big racket out of it ?? And I could add Michael Fay, and Fricker ..
All the cases have its own merits and prejudices. It does not equates to what we are discussing. NS issues has its own set of guidelines and ruling. Please do not states something that you have no idea what you are rambling about
Back to the one and only case I know of - he was born here, when his father was working here, and when my friend was a year old, his father migrated to Canada. And when my friend came here to apply for EP, it was ICA that went on to do the 'favor' to him - as to why they did it and not for everybody - NO COMMENTS CHIEF
over and out chief - no, not gonna prove your wrong or right - just my 2 cents opinion and sharing of what I know ..
FYI the OP you mentioned was last advised by me on another thread. I am the one that provided him with a palate of advise for him to decide on which route he would like to take.ecureilx wrote:ecureilx wrote: Now take the case of the Piono guy who wants to come back
PIANO GUY .. I meant, PIANO GUY PLAYER ..
BTW, this may add some fuel to the fire ..
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