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Moving and Working in SG (General Inquiries)

Postby xrmxrm » Tue, 04 Jan 2011 9:49 am

Hi i have general inquiries regarding employment in SG, i'll just post em here everynow and then as we are really interested in movng to SG!

First off, me and my girlfriend are planning to move to Singapore and work there, we tried looking for jobs online and did apply to some. We did apply to the same field we are currently working.

Im quite confused on how the EP and S pass works, we did the test online and sadly the result said that i was unlikely to qualify EP but i did qualify the S Pass. Does that mean i am also unlikely to get accepted on the jobs we applied for? As for my girlfriend she didnt have any problems with the test as she have a Masters Degree, thesis shy of a PHD.

I graduated with an associate degree in computers, a year shy of a BS. I do have 3 years work experience related to the job we we're applying to. Would it be possible for me to get accepted on the companies we applied to? Cheers!

--- btw we applied for BPO/Contact Centre jobs.

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Re: Moving and Working in SG (General Inquiries)

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:19 am

xrmxrm wrote:Hi i have general inquiries regarding employment in SG, i'll just post em here everynow and then as we are really interested in movng to SG!

First off, me and my girlfriend are planning to move to Singapore and work there, we tried looking for jobs online and did apply to some. We did apply to the same field we are currently working.

Im quite confused on how the EP and S pass works, we did the test online and sadly the result said that i was unlikely to qualify EP but i did qualify the S Pass. Does that mean i am also unlikely to get accepted on the jobs we applied for? As for my girlfriend she didnt have any problems with the test as she have a Masters Degree, thesis shy of a PHD.

The tests are not tests, but only general assessments. These are not guarantees that you would be acceptable to be granted a work visa of any sort. While you and your gf are possibly acceptable for different types of visas, that doesn't mean you will bet granted one. It only means that you won't be rejected for your academics/experience. Unfortunately, the employment visa process is a two part process. You have to qualify AND the employer must both qualify AND be able to document WHY they need to hire if foreigner if there are sufficient local/PR's around that have similar qualifications/experience. If there are, it doesn't matter how qualified you are, you will be still be rejected. The odds of you getting a position here is slim at best and impossible at worst. Your girlfriend, depending on the requirements of the company should have an easier time of it, but again there are no guarantees. Do not quit your other job until you have confirmation of acceptance by receipt of an AIP (Approval in Principle) from the MOM. Of course you have to find a company first that is willing to hire you as they are the ones who have to file for the employment pass as they are your sponsors.

I graduated with an associate degree in computers, a year shy of a BS. I do have 3 years work experience related to the job we we're applying to. Would it be possible for me to get accepted on the companies we applied to? Cheers!

--- btw we applied for BPO/Contact Centre jobs.


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Postby xrmxrm » Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:44 am

I take it if we can find a company that is willing to hire and process the employment pass for us it woud be much easier for us to enter SG and work there?

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Postby ecureilx » Tue, 04 Jan 2011 1:36 pm

xrmxrm wrote:I take it if we can find a company that is willing to hire and process the employment pass for us it woud be much easier for us to enter SG and work there?


Now if you had read the MOM site, you will know the anwer: You need an employer to apply for a pass, you can't apply for yourself, unlike some other countries ..

And as to your coming and working - above has to be met - to work here, and alternate, you can come on Social Visit pass and scout for a job, and once you get your Pass, you can work here ..

Pray - which country are you from ?

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Postby xrmxrm » Wed, 05 Jan 2011 4:59 am

ecureilx wrote:
xrmxrm wrote:I take it if we can find a company that is willing to hire and process the employment pass for us it woud be much easier for us to enter SG and work there?


Now if you had read the MOM site, you will know the anwer: You need an employer to apply for a pass, you can't apply for yourself, unlike some other countries ..

And as to your coming and working - above has to be met - to work here, and alternate, you can come on Social Visit pass and scout for a job, and once you get your Pass, you can work here ..

Pray - which country are you from ?


we're from the philippines looking to move to SG hopefully in the next few months. we are also considering going to SG and scout for a job there, if either one of us gets accepted (which would probably her) the other would tag along and hunt for one, and hopefuly gets hired.

and on a side note what is the minimum age requirement to be able to work in singapore alone? would it be 18 or 21? thanks

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:28 am

xrmxrm wrote:we're from the philippines looking to move to SG hopefully in the next few months. we are also considering going to SG and scout for a job there, if either one of us gets accepted (which would probably her) the other would tag along and hunt for one, and hopefuly gets hired.

and on a side note what is the minimum age requirement to be able to work in singapore alone? would it be 18 or 21? thanks


Well, I would love to know how old you are .. and how old your partner is ..

From What I remember, minimum age for foreign workers is 23 - unless you are using one of the exemptions such as 'trainee' 'ojt' etc. etc.

BTW, another curious question - what gives that you are confident that she will get a job and not you ?? :D Enlighten me ? :) Is it because she is a PHD ? Well, if you are more mature, you should know that if she is a PHD, she should be aiming for a higher position job, not as a BPO - contact center job, which unofficially speaking is for those who are not suitiably educated, though many would beg to differ and quote the hordes of foreigners who give up their position to be a call center agent ..

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:30 am

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A note of encouragement - think positive and aim higher - and if you can sell yourself higher, you don't need to worry too much about S-Pass - higher pay equates to E Pass ..

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Postby xrmxrm » Wed, 05 Jan 2011 8:41 pm

[quote="ecureilx"][/quote]

im 20 years old and my girlfriend is over 23, so if 23 is the minimum age requirement them im definitely screwed.

she's aiming for BPO as she doesnt want to practice the degree she finished. well atleast not in singapore

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 05 Jan 2011 9:14 pm

xrmxrm wrote:
ecureilx wrote:


im 20 years old and my girlfriend is over 23, so if 23 is the minimum age requirement them im definitely screwed.

she's aiming for BPO as she doesnt want to practice the degree she finished. well atleast not in singapore


Maybe a thread drift but .. couldn't resist ..

I am not planning to be your career counsellor or her career counsellor, but taking up BPO and contact center is the easy and relaxed way out - if she is a PHD, she should have enough prospects to pursue in Singapore, and enough Govt grants and not now, a few years later, when the BPO/contact business dries out or if the Americans become smart enough to read their user manuals - it maybe hastala vista .. or migrate to Serbia or Timbuktu, when the jobs move there .. :D (Nah -that's not a dig on the Americans .. just a comment in jest)

I sort of did the same when I was after my college as I got a easy cushy job, and 2 years of fun, and company car, and unlimited spending, and totally unrelated field of work - my only qualification being I was connected to the boss, I had enough fun, and when the company folded, I suddenly found that nobody wanted to employ me as I had experience unrelated to my field of study and nothing else of value - until an Angel stepped in and offered to get me back on track to do what I was trained to do, and it took another 2 years plus to look up, and face the world, and even now, at the age reaching 40, sometimes interviewers do question my sanity on the 2 years of fun and frolicking job I did ..

Anyway, you guys know what you are upto ..

have fun : As for the age limit - do some checking on MOM site, I am not sure if they did lower the age limit for those who are employed on "OJT" Trainee etc...

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Postby xrmxrm » Thu, 06 Jan 2011 1:19 pm

not that the BPO industry is completely unrelated to her field of study(ies) (we're both are jack of all trades, well sorta), its just at the moment its easier for her to get employed with BPO

as or the age limit i'll go probing around, hopefully there some leeway or workaround available for me. or else im screwd for good.

thanks you guys been helpful, i'll continue to update and ask regularly haha :)

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 06 Jan 2011 2:21 pm

xrmxrm wrote:not that the BPO industry is completely unrelated to her field of study(ies) (we're both are jack of all trades, well sorta), its just at the moment its easier for her to get employed with BPO

as or the age limit i'll go probing around, hopefully there some leeway or workaround available for me. or else im screwd for good.

thanks you guys been helpful, i'll continue to update and ask regularly haha :)


Exactly what I said -I was a jack of all trades - and I seamlessly slotted into my first job- unrelated to my field of study ..

BTW, Maybe you are rich enough that career doesn't matter :D Are you guys related to Zobel or Sy or Aboitiz ?? :D :D

Anyway, nowadays people like you know what to do in your life :D Have fun mate .. cheers

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Postby kokokrunch » Fri, 14 Jan 2011 1:27 pm

I would also like to ask some basic inquiries with regards to e-pass.

I currently have an employer there in Singapore, the same employer as my current employer here(I was hired by the Singapore branch).

My employer applied me an E-Pass which was denied maybe because I was an undergraduate, I dont have a Bachelors Degree, but experience wise I already worked on the same field for almost 6 years already. My employer requested for an appeal for my E-Pass, may I know what are the chances that my E-Pass will be approved? Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 14 Jan 2011 1:36 pm

Unless you are being offered at least S$7K/mo (P1 Pass) you have to have at least a qualifying degree. However, they may offer you an S pass, which only requires suitable degree/diploma or technical certifications & experience. There are restrictions on dependents when you have a S Pass (some even within the S pass depending on income levels).

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

Tell 'em to pay you 7K/mo and you should be okay.

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Postby kokokrunch » Fri, 14 Jan 2011 1:50 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Unless you are being offered at least S$7K/mo (P1 Pass) you have to have at least a qualifying degree. However, they may offer you an S pass, which only requires suitable degree/diploma or technical certifications & experience. There are restrictions on dependents when you have a S Pass (some even within the S pass depending on income levels).

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

Tell 'em to pay you 7K/mo and you should be okay.


Thank you for the quick response.

You're saying its very much impossible to get an e-pass without a bachelors degree? Even on the salary bracket of approximately SG$4000-$5000 and enough experience. I don't have problems with being able to available an S-Pass though, as of now I don't know what my employer is trying to appeal, may I also know if MoM will recommend an S-Pass instead of E-Pass without being asked by my employer?

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 14 Jan 2011 1:53 pm

kokokrunch wrote:My employer applied me an E-Pass which was denied maybe because I was an undergraduate,


SMS - you sort of hit the nail in the head :D

As for the poster - well, do I presume that you are from RP ?? Well, in RP, not completing a degree - you guys consider it as a Under Graduate, where-as the rest of the world calls it "NO DEGREE' - upon completing your course, and passing, you get a bachelor of something - which is UNDERGRADUATE, and not completing doesn't make you an under graduate .. and if your logic sticks, then those completing a degree become Post graduate or what ??? :D :D no- don't be offended ..

For MOM - which follows international standard, you technically have no qualification - hence ... to overcome that, either you go for a higher - higher pay, or .... do something to fix your qualification ..

Cheers !!!!

PS: if you are not from RP, then I am sorry - but still my clarification stands re: your graduation ..


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