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Starting a music cafe (sound system set up)

Postby asidie » Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:57 am

Hi all,

Im looking at start a cafe with open mic concert.
Will like to know if anyone know the rough cost of it and if anyone have any contacts to get good reasonable price for all these?

If there is any existing cafe owner willing to share about the doing
Do PM me or email me at raytwm@gmail.com

Thanks everyone for looking.
Cheers

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Postby curiousgeorge » Wed, 29 Dec 2010 7:53 am

Erm, I don't think this forum is really the place to get your business plan!

Firstly, to start any business in Singapore you'll need an Entrepass, and according to MOM, Examples of businesses that will not be considered for the EntrePass include: Coffee shops, hawker centres, food courts, Bars, night clubs, karaoke lounges. I don't know, but a cafe with an open mic concept sounds pretty similar.

Secondly, look at the local market...go visit Timbre every night for a week and see that they have only 2 really busy nights. Or look at the open mic nights at the University bars...

Thirdly, I have no idea how much a cafe, decor, kitchen, furniture etc would cost...really without any idea how can you launch such a venture?!?

Regarding the audio and lighting side of things, you can spend as much or as little as you want. You can go to some Uncle selling china-brand goods and get something that preproduces audio for under $10k.

Or you can go high-end equipment for decent audio and spent $150k+ It depends on the size of your premises and the size of bands playing at the open mic.

Let me give you an idea: a normal stage "parcan" type light will cost you about $200, and another $80 every time you replace the bulb. A top stage moving light will cost you $23,000 and about $200 every time you change the bulb. And we've not even started talking about the load-bearing capacity of the ceiling or the truss you will need, or the additional power supplies...

A concert-quality audio console can cost up to $500,000!

But there are plenty of quality contractors in town who can do what you need for the audio/lighting side of it:
Electro-Acoustic Systems
Code Audio
Electronics & Engineering
Desisti Asia
Pave Systems
etc...

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 29 Dec 2010 8:40 am

Can't tell if the guy is a local or an expat. The entrepass would only be if the guy is an expat but currently the OP is posting from a Singapore ISP.....

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Re: Starting a music cafe (sound system set up)

Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:43 am

asidie wrote:Hi all,

Im looking at start a cafe with open mic concert.
Will like to know if anyone know the rough cost of it and if anyone have any contacts to get good reasonable price for all these?

If there is any existing cafe owner willing to share about the doing
Do PM me or email me at raytwm@gmail.com

Thanks everyone for looking.
Cheers


Are you looking to have a turnkey setup with sound system, lights, etc for one night? Need more information.

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Postby asidie » Wed, 29 Dec 2010 11:46 am

Hi thanks for replying,

Im focusing more on the cafe
Therefore im not looking at spend so much on the stage.
Probably just a small corner with musical instruments
Premise is also about 100sqf unlike timbre. not very big. and to maybe include a electronic drum so the overall volume can be control.

I don't really know whats a turnkey set up.
But i intend to have performance every night.

By the way, im local :)

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Postby ksl » Wed, 29 Dec 2010 6:43 pm

asidie wrote:Hi thanks for replying,

Im focusing more on the cafe
Therefore im not looking at spend so much on the stage.
Probably just a small corner with musical instruments
Premise is also about 100sqf unlike timbre. not very big. and to maybe include a electronic drum so the overall volume can be control.

I don't really know whats a turnkey set up.
But i intend to have performance every night.

By the way, im local :)


I know of a cafe that does just that, though only at weekends, all the music is free though, as the musician's just need a place for practice, I think you need to do much more research to see if this idea is feasible, and your target market will be who?

If in the City it will cost an arm and a leg as you probably know, with no guarantees to get off the ground. You need good food and service with the right kind of atmosphere. There I should imagine there are a few cafes open to the idea of having a music area, as music may attract the right crowd, maybe you should work with one of these if it's the music side of the setup you are interested in.

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Postby Mr Tan » Tue, 31 May 2011 1:40 pm

eat and go makes more $. visit the HK cafe at East Coast and u see people hogging the seats, imagine the revenue lost over there.


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