Girls Bars at Tanjong Pagar

[intellectualsmuse]

Yes, fully agree but there was not a single sentence here about such agreement (oh, he promised not to go to this kind of places) and assuming the world has it just like this is a bit weird.

Sure, I mean you can't really be prepared for every eventuality... (even if u go for a REALLY exhaustive pre-nup ), but my point was that when something "unexpected" crops up, you need to decide for yourself.

End of the day you may get advice from a million people but when it comes to making a decision you need to remember that you're the one who will live with the consequences.

[Muslima70]

hi brisa,
i do emphatise with you...i think if i were married and my partner did go to a pub then i would feel concerned..it will make me feel upset and worried too. Personally I think he can do other stuff like play sports or take up a hobby to relieve his stress..but then I am a conservative person.

And I agree with the other who said that maybe you have some other problems that you are not mentioning on this forum.

On the other hand based on what most pple say, it seems that this normal behaviour for some men to go to pubs ..mostly because they need space..that part I can understand...

although I am not married, I do notice that my male relative and friends who are married and conservative do need "space" from their wives and kids.. Going to bar and pubs are not ok as the men I know are quite conservative so the guys find other outlets like fishing, football and maybe sports or hobbies...My point is that even conservative and traditional Asian men need space..maybe they just do it another way from expats?

Divorce is often initiated by women..but this does not mean it is the best solution..

Try giving him the space as advised by others, and see if you can do things to improve yr relationship in the marriage..go counselling if there other problems ..but divorce i think is not solution...it may just add problems esp if you and him still make good team as a married couple.

It's natural to feel engry and betrayed..but hopefully when you can forgive and forget things will get better...Of course it's easier said than done.

To me a good marriage doesn't mean a rosy life without problems..it means sticking by one another and growing stronger and forgiving each other when either partner makes mistakes. Walking away (divorce ) may seem like a solution but I know for a fact that many long time married couples faced many serious problems even infidelity, but somehow their marriage survived. I know cos' of someone close to me who had this problem.

Not that marital infidelity is right! But somehow some people can be very patient and forgiving because they are willing to give their spouse another chance..if he hasn't cheated on you, you can try to make the marriage work and focus on his good points.

Don't give up...

[ecureilx]

sorry, I only could start out giggling .. and ended up laughing my heart out ..

I could hazard a guess that the lady in question has a serious issue with trust - and has been mentioned - maybe from an Asian country where women are so suspicious, the men take extra efforts to fool / screw / mess / affair etc. etc. ..

If only the TS knew what happen is some of the high end KTV joints, she will know the Tanjong Pagar is just a walk in the park ..

[EADG]

Actually I'd have to agree with ecureilx on all accounts, including the giggling. The naiveté of some people...

There's a lot more outside action happening in Asia than back home (at least from what I've witnessed). Why that is, well, that may take some soul searching but it's probably not too difficult to figure out.

What happens in those silly Tanjong Pagar-type girlie bars and the like is pretty innocuous. I don't like them because to me they're very sad when you stop to think what's happening - poor (both financially and most other ways) young women incapable of adult conversations, most are completely uneducated in awful working and living conditions trying to pay off bad people totally in charge of their lives by awkwardly attempting to get men to buy them drinks, when everyone knows the game.

What's attractive or even fun about that? An educated, attractive, feminine, tastefully-dressed, independent, mature, intelligent woman is infinitely more sexy than that any day...

But as he said, what happens in some of the KTVs is something a wife should be more concerned about. Most Westerners don't frequent KTVs and if so not as frequently or proportionally as locals - I'm not slagging anyone it's just what I've seen. And it's part of the business culture here - dinner here, a few drinks there, then to a 'safe' KTV, then some of the hardcore partyers on to more dodgy KTVs after that. And then there's that area that's not Geylang and not Four Floors, but I don't remember the name.

Anyway, same goes for Bataam, and you know what they say about Bataam....

[aargon]

I thought KTV is simply a Karaoke lounge? what have i been missing?

[JR8]

I thought KTV is simply a Karaoke lounge? what have i been missing?

No offence intended, but South Island or Tasmania?

[EADG]

That's probably what most wives think too.

I thought KTV is simply a Karaoke lounge? what have i been missing?

[JR8]

That's probably what most wives think too.

I thought KTV is simply a Karaoke lounge? what have i been missing?

Oh you think!

[curiousgeorge]

I thought KTV is simply a Karaoke lounge? what have i been missing?

I've got more bad news - the Ã

[sundaymorningstaple]

You are on a roll!

[ecureilx]

I thought KTV is simply a Karaoke lounge? what have i been missing?

Well, Meet me with a couple of thousand $ and I can be your non-participating tour guide .. And then .. you will know why the women and some of the 'top spot ktvs' earn- some grossing more than 30,000 S$ a month ... and easily do they do it ..

Nah- not gonna implicate myself spilling the beans ..

[ev-disinfection]

dear strong eagle...I kinda like your sense of humor but the answer for that question is 'because he did something wrong’.

I know you all are trying to ‘normalize’ the fact that guys ‘just go to these places to have a laugh’ but to be honest…I think it is something deeper than that. There is something missing in the guy's life and that's why he is looking for the wrong fulfillment….

can't you just throw me a bone here?

Hi guys, being the sensitive one, I think her husband "did something wrong"... (probably a happy ending thingee)
that is why... he apologized and that it is serious enough for her to contemplate divorce.

For me, I call it the "Asian Jungle Fever" for foreigners who get out here and fall. and was thinking of starting a company to help the newbies in Asia and to advise the feverish ones.
The TP pubs - girls will work till 4 am, they get commission from the SGD 30.00 shots (Ladies drinks) and most will not put out.
(local guy)[/b]

[ecureilx]

ev-disinfection: as I learnt, sometimes, it is not a macho thingy - it is more than that: when I did a short stint with a Japanese company, the monthly KTV visits, all sponsored by the boss, were a ritual, and if you find excuses to avoid the decadance that happens, after two excuses, you realise the boss stops confiding in you .. and slowly, the company get together invites start to reduce ..

Nah- I am not justifying anything ..

And for the girls in TP, you are lucky if you walk off with a 30$ drink - most Girl drinks can pop up from 50$ and keep shooting higher till they peak at 150$ just for 5 small shots of Tequila pops ..

[Wind In My Hair]

[quote="curiousgeorge"]the Ã

[sundaymorningstaple]

Nah! Telex is last century. But fax is getting close, I must admit....