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Postby Wind In My Hair » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 7:48 pm

JayCee wrote:As for doing it more blatantly, that must be a joke as you see old uncles and various seedy looking local guys hanging around outside Karaoke bars smoking cigarettes with 'hostesses' all over this island, I wouldn't call that discrete.

I realise that YOU weren't saying all expat men are like that and it's just a perception that other locals may have, but it does back up the view that locals are xenophobic if this is the general view based on a minority of white boys that might shag around a bit.

Sigh, classic case of taking things out of context. I wasn't talking about karaoke bars or hostesses. Do read the relevant posts before you comment. I get tired of repeating myself! I've highlighted the important part for you, out of the kindness of my heart :)

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longstebe wrote:WIMH, just out of interest, can you elaborate on your comment about the foreigners using local women for sex.

By local women I don't mean prostitutes or SPGs who are willing parties to one night stands, but the girl next door who is innocent enough to have her heart broken when she finds out that her 'boyfriend' is equally charming to many other women and sleeping with them all. I just don't like seeing this happen, that's all.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 8:50 pm

What you mean the chicks in KTV lounges are not just 'girls next door' who like a bit of a sing song? :o

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Postby MauMau » Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:31 am

longstebe wrote:
MauMau wrote:I can't speak for others. I'm going to retire in JB. Gelang patah, 2 storey house, RM330k, gated community.

=> about S$140.00... that less then a brand new BMW320i.

By that time, I don't see the point of living in Singapore. better brush up on my gardening skills.

Someone mentioned earlier that I started this thread as a troll.

Oh behave.



Just out of curiosity, are you posting in the right thread?


Just out of curiosity, are you?

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Postby longstebe » Thu, 16 Dec 2010 9:37 am

Oh dear here we go again, the reason I asked was that I had started a thread on retiring in Singapore and maybe you had replied in the wrong thread, since your reply was based on retiring in Singapore.
If you haven't, it's no big deal, I wont lose sleep over it..
It just seems your reply was a little sarcastic. If it was meant to be sarcastic, your gonna have to do a lot better than that.

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Postby JayCee » Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:05 am

Wind In My Hair wrote:
JayCee wrote:As for doing it more blatantly, that must be a joke as you see old uncles and various seedy looking local guys hanging around outside Karaoke bars smoking cigarettes with 'hostesses' all over this island, I wouldn't call that discrete.

I realise that YOU weren't saying all expat men are like that and it's just a perception that other locals may have, but it does back up the view that locals are xenophobic if this is the general view based on a minority of white boys that might shag around a bit.

Sigh, classic case of taking things out of context. I wasn't talking about karaoke bars or hostesses. Do read the relevant posts before you comment. I get tired of repeating myself! I've highlighted the important part for you, out of the kindness of my heart :)

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longstebe wrote:WIMH, just out of interest, can you elaborate on your comment about the foreigners using local women for sex.

By local women I don't mean prostitutes or SPGs who are willing parties to one night stands, but the girl next door who is innocent enough to have her heart broken when she finds out that her 'boyfriend' is equally charming to many other women and sleeping with them all. I just don't like seeing this happen, that's all.


I think you missed my point. I was alluding to the fact that many, many Singaporean men who are dating or married to "the girl next door" will still mess around with other women including those who work as hostesses/hookers aswell as the more 'normal' women too. So ultimately it's the 'girl next door' who gets her heart broken by the cheating local guy, certainly the one he's supposed to be attached too gets hurt and possibly the one he's doing the cheating with too if she's doesn't know he's attached (as long as she's a 'normal' girl of course, a hooker or hostess obviously won't care)

How this makes the local guy any better than the westerner who is doing the same thing I don't know, but I'd take a wild guess that the percentage of westerners doing it is a lot less than the locals (don't ask me to start gathering figures for you about that as I just said it's only a guess based on what I see). Hence why I think it's a xenophobic attitude for many women to have if that's what they think about western men yet don't have the same viewpoint of their own guys.

Also, of the many foreign women (not western) that I know here, most say they wouldn't date a Singaporean because they don't treat women very well and most would be open to a relationship with a western man as they believe they would be more trustworthy and treat them better, so I guess at least someone likes us here :roll:

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Thu, 16 Dec 2010 5:16 pm

JayCee wrote:I guess at least someone likes us here :roll:

Good for you! :)

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Postby MauMau » Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:38 pm

longstebe wrote:Oh dear here we go again, the reason I asked was that I had started a thread on retiring in Singapore and maybe you had replied in the wrong thread, since your reply was based on retiring in Singapore.
If you haven't, it's no big deal, I wont lose sleep over it..
It just seems your reply was a little sarcastic. If it was meant to be sarcastic, your gonna have to do a lot better than that.


Bo liao.

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:43 am

Wind In My Hair wrote:
JayCee wrote:Let me ask you the same question - do you have any figures to back up your 'suspicion' that it's more than 7%?

Ok here we go... three sets of figures from four different sources:

- In Q4 2009, Singapore PRs bought 15% of private homes, and foreigners bought another 12% for a total of 27%.
- Of the 7374 private units sold in H1 2009, 2305 caveats were lodged by foreigners and PRs, comprising 31% of the total.
- In Q2 2010, foreigners and PRs accounted for 23.7% of the private market.

I guess it's safe to say that foreigners account for more than 7% of the private property market. The figure ranges from 24%-31%, ie a quarter to a third of the total. Are you saying that this has no impact on prices?

JayCee wrote:It's greedy Singaporeans who take out 5 mortgages to buy condos that they can rent to foreigners who are driving the prices up

Your turn to back up this assertion :wink:

Yesterday's papers reported the latest figures: almost one in three private properties (about 30%) were bought by foreigners and PRs. Sigh, after all that time I spent searching for figures. Shoulda just waited!

Well, my suspicion has been backed up many times over. I'm still waiting for you to back up your assertion. Or should I conclude that this is a case of reverse xenophobia (is there a term for it)?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 18 Dec 2010 12:24 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote: Or should I conclude that this is a case of reverse xenophobia (is there a term for it)?


In the army they call smoke grenade !! Or my men in the unit (the Ah Bengs) will shout "SMOKE NENEK!! :lol:
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Postby QRM » Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:09 am

Interesting how many Singaporeans are now buying in London. http://www.knightfrank.co.uk/news/60-of ... -0620.aspx

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Postby BillyB » Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:37 am

[quote="QRM"]Interesting how many Singaporeans are now buying in London. http://www.knightfrank.co.uk/news/60-of ... -0620.aspx[/quote

Quite ironic isn't it. Yet if we make a fuss, we get labelled members of the BNP!!

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Postby Michael_A » Mon, 27 Jun 2011 1:10 pm

Same goes over here, there's a huge amount of real estate being sold off to Foreign investors.. and i know there's a huge amount of money spent here from Sg investors, especially in the Hotel industry..

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Postby JayCee » Mon, 27 Jun 2011 1:29 pm

BillyB wrote:
QRM wrote:Interesting how many Singaporeans are now buying in London. http://www.knightfrank.co.uk/news/60-of ... -0620.aspx[/quote

Quite ironic isn't it. Yet if we make a fuss, we get labelled members of the BNP!!


I'm really tempted to post that joke I sent you a while back now!
I HAVE MASTERS!

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Postby BillyB » Mon, 27 Jun 2011 6:44 pm

JayCee wrote:
BillyB wrote:
QRM wrote:Interesting how many Singaporeans are now buying in London. http://www.knightfrank.co.uk/news/60-of ... -0620.aspx[/quote

Quite ironic isn't it. Yet if we make a fuss, we get labelled members of the BNP!!


I'm really tempted to post that joke I sent you a while back now!


Ha ha!! :-) You should......

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Postby putnam » Tue, 05 Jul 2011 2:57 pm

Singapore cannot sustain growth without foreign talents. The population of Singapore has been increasing steadily, but the population of Singapore has been decreasing if foreign households are not counted. Anyway, Singapore is not so competitive without foreign talents.


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