Do I have to keep returning to Sp to keep my PR current?

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Post by Strong Eagle » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 8:30 am

Badhairday23 wrote:Turns out if I get PR, there are ways around leaving the country for 5 years or more (costs about 50 sing dollars).
Good luck on that one. I've got some waterfront property available in the Gobi desert. But, please, do post the information. A lot of people would like to know how to hang onto PR for "5 years or more" for 50 dollars.

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Post by merichan » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 8:35 am

Problem is exit permit is not a way to leave country for 5 years or more...

To renew that exit permit when it expires... you need 3 years tax assessments in singapore... meaning you at least lived here for 3 out of five years.

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Post by Badhairday23 » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 4:11 pm

We have not lived in the UK for going on 10 years, yet we still complete tax returns in the UK for wages received in the UK, and property income........

Does it merely state that I need to complete tax returns or actually live in the country?

A country wanting you to complete tax returns is understandable....had I not bothered to cancel the resident permit when I left Belgium, I would be liable to complete tax returns there despite not residing there, likewise, I have to inform the authorities in Germany when I leave for Good. Seems reasonable.

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Post by maxluis » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 4:30 pm

Very Helpful Forum and quite an interesting topic as well !!!
Keep It Up !!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 4:58 pm

Badhairday23 wrote:I understand you cannot apply for PR after the age of 45.
Incorrect

You were probably reading the requirements on LTSVP and you have to be OVER 45. Following from the ICA website:

ICA wrote:Eligibility

Visitors are eligible to apply for a renewable Long Term Visit Pass of up to 5 years if they meet the following criteria:

1. 45 years old and above;
2. own a property / properties in Singapore worth at least S$500,000 (in total) for residential purposes and meet any one of the following financial requirements:
* have savings of at least S$400,000 parked in Singapore in any form of financial instruments based in Singapore, or
* show evidence of a monthly local income of at least S$7,000, or
* have a combined, savings and 5-year equivalent income of at least $400,000.
3. must be in good health
4. have valid Medical Insurance in Singapore

For renewal of the Visit Pass for purpose of long term stay, the applicant is required to meet the same set of investment, financial and medical requirements as indicated in paragraph (1) to (4) above.

Badhairday23 wrote:I know the procedure for applying for PR and I know I can't do it until we have lived and worked in Sg for a while...
First of all you need to find a job here that cannot be done by a foreigner in order to get an EP. They are not just giving EP's away now. Or, you need to start a business via the entrepass route.
Badhairday23 wrote:how often would I have to keep returning to Singapore to keep it current and valid?
Had you done all your research as claimed you wouldn't need to ask this question. I've seen cases where they have stayed away for 2 or 3 years and were only given a single year's re-entry permit upon returning here. Enough time to take up citizenship or take a hike.
Badhairday23 wrote:Anyway, From my research on the internet, it seems that once my husband gets PR, hemight be able to apply for a REP (re-entry permit) which would allow him to stay out of the country for 5 years and still hold onto his PR. Also, the REP seems to be renewable.

You were asked to provide the link to the page which indicated you could stay out of the country for 5 years and still keep PR. You have not. Pipe dream? Obviously the REP is renewable. That's so they can get rid of abusers who collect PR's and then leave the country to work in other countries, thereby depriving others of PR and the chance for them to actually contribute to the economy.

Badhairday23 wrote:I have done my research with respect to that, so all that speculation is unwarranted.
Thus far, your research has left a lot to be desired. Hope it doesn't trip you up. Beware of half truths - might be the wrong half.
Badhairday23 wrote:We have not lived in the UK for going on 10 years, yet we still complete tax returns in the UK for wages received in the UK, and property income........

Does it merely state that I need to complete tax returns or actually live in the country?

I believe you will find that they actually want to see that you are actively contributing to the government coffers - e.g., paying income taxes on earned income and not investment income as well as contributing to the local economy. Unless of course you get your PR under the investment scheme which mean, currently an investment in the 8 figure category.(It still shows the 6 figure category on the ICA website however (400K). A search of this forum will turn up links to articles giving the new criteria.

A country wanting you to complete tax returns is understandable....had I not bothered to cancel the resident permit when I left Belgium, I would be liable to complete tax returns there despite not residing there, likewise, I have to inform the authorities in Germany when I leave for Good. Seems reasonable.
http://www.fareast.com.sg/global/index. ... -programme

http://www.pbcorporate.com.sg/permanent ... scheme.php

It's okay. You just keep going on those premises. You'll be right. [-(
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Post by Strong Eagle » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 5:02 pm

Badhairday23 wrote:Does it merely state that I need to complete tax returns or actually live in the country?
What it states is that you must provide three years of Singapore tax assessment documents. You only pay Singapore tax if you are normally resident in Singapore. Not here, no tax, no assessment, nothing to show in support of PR.

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Post by aster » Sun, 09 Jan 2011 5:09 pm

Speaking of becoming a citizen, have they changed anything regarding the requirement to renounce one's previous citizenship? There was talk that this might happen in the future, but I haven't heard anything since (fair enough I've been away for a few months).

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 09 Jan 2011 5:48 pm

Still a pipe dream. Will probably only happen when the Leeky dynasty no long is holding the reins here and not before.
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Post by aster » Sun, 09 Jan 2011 6:17 pm

Wish it would happen as giving up one's old passport isn't going to happen in most cases.

It's interesting to see that they have a Long Term Visit Pass scheme running - something which I was unaware of before. Maybe this will suit the OP as a way of living in Singapore "sometime in the future." Especially with it being for over 45's and renewable at 5-yr intervals.

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Post by x9200 » Sun, 09 Jan 2011 9:09 pm

It is not going to happen because if Singapore will be in need majority of holding more then one passport would just leave. Forced, instrumental loyalty. The said paradox is that the other group who could be truly loyal to Singapore will not give away their citizenship also for the reason of loyalty. What kind of citizen one is going to be if he or she gives up their roots?

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