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Do I have to keep returning to Sp to keep my PR current?

Post by Badhairday23 » Wed, 08 Dec 2010 7:29 pm

I havn't applied for a PR yet. Husband and I are still in the early stages of planning a move to Singapore.

Ideally I would like to have it as a back up and return to Europe for a good few years. I would like to get the PR as my DH and I are not getting any younger and I understand you cannot apply for PR after the age of 45.

So, my question is, assuming to apply and get the PR, how often would I have to keep returning to Singapore to keep it current and valid?

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Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 08 Dec 2010 8:11 pm

Don't you understand that PR stands for PERMANENT RESIDENT?

Why do you want PR if you are not even going to be here?

It is exactly this kind of shenanigans that has caused the Singapore government to crack down on PR's and make it more difficult for those of us who have settled here.

Don't bother to apply unless you intend to live here. Even if you do intend to live here, most often you'll need to come in on a work permit for a couple of years before you'll even be considered. And then show three years of wages and taxes paid in Singapore. How ya gonna do that, living in Europe?

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Post by Badhairday23 » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:00 am

I fully intend to live in Sg..... WHy the hell do you think I am intersted in a Sg PR.

I know the procedure for applying for PR and I know I can't do it until we have lived and worked in Sg for a while... It's kinda common sense.

So far, my husband has worked all over the world and I was not sure if we we would have to stop that once we get the PR. I see myself finally settling down in Sg, but ideally we would still like to be able to wander the world.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:36 am

The vast majority of people who apply for PR have no intentions of becoming "Permanent" just like you. You sound like you just want it for convenience only. I would suggest you go back and read your post to see how it reads to others.

If you know the procedure, then you also know it probably ain't gonna happen. You don't show any signs of wanting to be "Permanent".
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Post by Badhairday23 » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:39 am

My husband will have NO problems getting a permanant job in Sg. And we have family there as well.

But....you obviously know my circumstances better than I.

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Post by durain » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:58 am

we all know your circumstance. you want a PR in singapore (have it as a "back up"), except the PR in your case is part-time resident.

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Post by Badhairday23 » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 1:07 am

I want to be a full time resident......but would prefer (if possible) if I could defer it until after the age of 45.

Are none of you still citizens of countries that you do not currently reside in? No British passport holders etc?

Anyway, From my research on the internet, it seems that once my husband gets PR, hemight be able to apply for a REP (re-entry permit) which would allow him to stay out of the country for 5 years and still hold onto his PR. Also, the REP seems to be renewable.

That was all I wanted to know. Thanks all the same.

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Post by Mad Scientist » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 4:35 am

Badhairday23 wrote:I want to be a full time resident......but would prefer (if possible) if I could defer it until after the age of 45.

Are none of you still citizens of countries that you do not currently reside in? No British passport holders etc?

Anyway, From my research on the internet, it seems that once my husband gets PR, hemight be able to apply for a REP (re-entry permit) which would allow him to stay out of the country for 5 years and still hold onto his PR. Also, the REP seems to be renewable.

That was all I wanted to know. Thanks all the same.
I guess you are toying with the ideas where else can I get PR/s which will be easy to manipulate, no string attach yadda yadda yadda
Well, my dear, you chose the wrong place to apply. Your PR if approved does not expire BUT your REP will be at 5 yrs interval.

Read this http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=152

And this


Additional Documents Required for SPRs under the Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers (PTS) Scheme
If you are an employee

* A letter (issued not more than one month ago) from the employer addressed to the Controller of Immigration, stating the date of employment, position held and monthly salary
* Statement from the CPF Board showing the CPF Contribution History for the last 12 months
* Income Tax Notice of Assessment for the last 3 years.

If you are self-employed (e.g. company director, sole proprietor, business partner)

* Income Tax Notice of Assessment for the last 3 years
* And ONE of the three documents listed below:
o Practising Certificate (applicable to applicants whose occupations require such certificates to proceed with their respective professional practices in Singapore, e.g. doctors, lawyers, etc)
o Vocational Licence
o Business Registration Certificate (showing the names of all the Directors and partners) from the Instant Information Service, Accounting & Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA).


Even places like OZ, NZ, USA. HKG and UK which used to be easy to get PRs are not that easy anymore. There will always be string attached
You will be hard pressed to get a job here, more so on PRs as employment here are now focussed on the locals alone
None of us here are trying to insult nor prevent you from applying. That will be your choice but the truth is from ZERO to TEN will be MINUS FIVE
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Post by Badhairday23 » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 6:42 pm

Erm...yeah. I know.

The requirements seem pretty normal to me. Common sense, actually. Not clear why you increased font size and changed to red, the income tax requirement thing......lol.

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Post by JayCee » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 6:46 pm

Try and be clever and sarcastic to people all you want, the fact remains that you won't get PR so the joke's on you :roll:

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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 8:05 pm

Badhairday23 wrote:Erm...yeah. I know.

The requirements seem pretty normal to me. Common sense, actually. Not clear why you increased font size and changed to red, the income tax requirement thing......lol.
Possibly, BHD, we could start over on another foot, and take a more amicable route in the discussion.

First, it is not true that no PR's will be issued over 45 years of age. I was 57 when I got my PR. Things may be tougher now, but in your time range, things will change yet again. And if you have the income, the assets, the desire to put roots down in Singapore, being older than 45 will not be a liability.

Having said that, your question suggests that you don't understand what PR is. It is making a long term commitment to Singapore, of which the government would like to see a significant percentage become citizens.

When you ask if you can just pick up a PR, drop by one in a while to get it renewed, until you are actually ready to come to Singapore, you inflame a lot of passions, mine included. If you think you can't get PR at 45, what makes you think they would renew it at 46, even if you did manage to get PR today?

Those of us who are PR have watched PR bennies disappear, until there is not much difference between us and those on an EP... OK, we can buy into HDB and still get educational subsidies... but many things are gone because of people who have abused PR.

My view is that you should forget about trying to get PR until you are actually ready to settle here. Then do what most folks do. Get an employment pass, show your worth, then go for PR if Singapore is the long term resolution for you.

Cheers.

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Post by Badhairday23 » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 8:53 pm

Thank you for your post. I certainly did not mean to annoy anyone.And I'm not sure it's fair to make scapegoats of Sg PR who do not live in Sg for a reduction in bennies.

A lot of assumptions have been made about my circumstances. I have family in Sg and I see myself settling down there ie making full use of the PR. We also intend to move there on an EP, to test out the water.

If upon acquisition of PR, Singapore requires us to live in Sg we are more than happy to do so. I do not think I ever indicated otherwise. But, it appears Sg does offer the opportunity to hold onto a PR and work overseas, so I am unclear why it would be a crime to consider this as an option if our earnings would be considerably higher overseas. Eastern Europe/ India thrive on their citizens working abroad and moving the money back to their homeland ...... why could this not be of benefit to Sg?

I am quite happy for the Sg authorities to decide what they think would be in the best interest of their country, and I will abide by that. I have no interest in listening to mad ramblings on a website from people who have absolutely NO clue about my personal circumstances, telling me I will not qualify for a PR.

I'm thinking most of you PR holders and holding a PR because you still want to retain citizenship to other countries that you no longer reside in. Nothing wrong with that. I could easily say, why are you holding on to a citizenship that you are not using, if you give it up, then some other immigrant can take your place.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:07 pm

:roll:
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Post by Mad Scientist » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 3:51 am

Badhairday23 wrote: A lot of assumptions have been made about my circumstances. I have family in Sg and I see myself settling down there ie making full use of the PR. We also intend to move there on an EP, to test out the water.

I am quite happy for the Sg authorities to decide what they think would be in the best interest of their country, and I will abide by that. I have no interest in listening to mad ramblings on a website from people who have absolutely NO clue about my personal circumstances, telling me I will not qualify for a PR.
OP, I think you post this thread seeking more of an assurances rather than answers from us. You have already stated that you have family ties in Singapore. Why don't you ask them ? Blood is thicker than water , yes ?
Moreover , what do we know, as we are a bunch of "mad rambling people" in the internet that has no clue to your circumstances. Who are we to say you do NOT qualify ??
Yet again, you should ask those satisfied forumers whom came with two hands seeking advise. They got more than what they bargain for and went away very satisfied and assured.
We are not paid for this job. We are just paying it forward
BTW b4 you go, read this. To have an idea what we "mad people" are rambling about.
If you want more, let me know before I go senile :lol:

http://www.home-in-singapore.sg/Singapore/cms ... &s=6&s2=62

http://www.singstat.gov.sg/stats/themes ... ef2010.pdf
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Post by Badhairday23 » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 4:02 am

I dont want family to get too excited at this stage.

No, I was not seeking assurance. I asked a question regarding what the situation would be upon being granted PR. Posters went off at a tangent and started focussing on wether I would or should get PR (not my initial query at all). I have done my research with respect to that, so all that speculation is unwarranted.

It's only paying it forward if you answer or at least attempt to answer the question posed.

So, I got off my back and answered my own question - as stated . Turns out if I get PR, there are ways around leaving the country for 5 years or more (costs about 50 sing dollars). I don't need links to a page detailing the difference between PR and citizenship, or a 25 page booklet about Sg demographics and trivia. Not exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks all the same. Really.

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