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Post by tinkerbell88 » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:21 pm

A lot of discipline, pain, sweat, tears will go into losing weight. You have to expend more than you consume, and give yourself a target timeline or weight. Exercise is quite important too I've realised. 30-45 minutes of intensive cardio with some weight training 4-5 times a week is my mantra. Get a personal trainer or download an exercise App! I still treat myself occasionally with the occasional organic ice cream and chocolate. Cadbury's dairy milk (UK version from Bournville) is my fave!
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Post by v4jr4 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:58 pm

My target is not only losing weight, but also to cut off salt consumption as well due to HBP. I know some guys with normal BMI, but they kena HBP as well since they do exercises, but they never pay any attention to salt consumption, especially if they start talking about simmered pork :P

I think calorie counting will work this time. Plus, I'm trying to narrow down carbs consumption. Eggs, fruits, vegetables, soya milk without sugar. Let's see if that will do the trick this time :lol:

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Post by shadowoflight » Sun, 29 Jul 2012 4:52 am

You should check out the Slow Carb Diet.

It's not very fast but it's sustainable if you're ok with meat, veggies and beans.

Google it or check out the book - 4 Hour Body

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Post by v4jr4 » Wed, 01 Aug 2012 2:59 pm

I get 4 hour body in pdf format. Well, I have to say that I can only hit the running track :(

About the HBP, now I get some "giving-face" dilemma. A couple of days ago, there's a small party with salty foods. It's not like I don't want to reject, but the host of the small party is a good person. 1 or 2 slices will not kill me. But, well, feeling thirsty is the after effect.

I'm thinking if water or food with potassium can really counter the thirst. At that time, I rely on water. Some links from Google suggest to take food with potassium to counter the salt.

Does anyone have another tricks?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 01 Aug 2012 4:14 pm

v4rj4, when I was on my program, I went to weddings of all flavours (races), PA dinners, and other functions. For the various weddings I just told the hosts that I would really like to come but as I am on a doctor's controlled weight loss programme, the only way I could attend is if I brought my own food to eat. In every case, the hosts agreed and I would bring my dinner in a biokip container in a small bag and would discretely hand it to a waiter/waitress and as them if they could transfer contents to a plate and serve it to me. Never posed any problems at all.
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Post by v4jr4 » Wed, 01 Aug 2012 5:22 pm

Wow. Strict to the max =D>

But have you ever "accidentally" eaten something salty, but you do something to remove the thirsty feeling? Apart from drinking water or eating banana for example.

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Post by the lynx » Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:12 pm

v4jr4 wrote:Wow. Strict to the max =D>

But have you ever "accidentally" eaten something salty, but you do something to remove the thirsty feeling? Apart from drinking water or eating banana for example.
The thirsty feeling caused by salt and other phagostimulants (like MSG) is entirely in endocrine level, which runs in your circulation system. So you need to flush it out by drinking a lot of water. Having potassium food can only help a little bit by counter reacting with the chemical groups in those substances but you will still need to flush it out of the system.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:09 am

v4jr4 wrote:Wow. Strict to the max =D>

But have you ever "accidentally" eaten something salty, but you do something to remove the thirsty feeling? Apart from drinking water or eating banana for example.
No, not strict. Committed! (or maybe I should be) I made up my mind and I did it. I did the same thing with cigarettes 7+ years ago. Crunched a half pack of Marboro lights in the middle of a Sunday afternoon and that was it. After a 37 year habit of inhaling Cigars, Pipes (yes, inhaling) and at one point up to 4 packs a day. When I quite I was smoking one pack a day.

I tend to operate like Nike. JUST DO IT!

As I cook my own foods, I control how it's cooked. The only time I end up with some saltiness is if my wife think my stirfried veges don't have enough flavour so decides to help me cook and puts a tiny bit of soy sauce in. Pucker factor every time. Spit it out, lots of water. What to do? :shit:
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Post by hanabie » Thu, 02 Aug 2012 3:21 am

you want to lose weight.

Eat less than your daily calories and exercise.
Of course you need to eat it right.

There are plenty guide out there when you google.

You need to eat fat to lose weight as well. At sms, you are wrong. Salmon and Tuna produces omega 3 fatty acids and it is healthy for your diet.

You eat healthy but you eat over your macro (daily calories) % of protein, % of carb and % of fat. You gain weight. Period.

You need to burn your fat by doing cardio and weight training.

Also, some of you tries to hunger yourself. Good luck.
You will end up with skinny plus FAT. You are encouraging your body to a starvation mode (catabolic state) rather than anabolic state.

You need to sleep enough! Do not ever sleep less than 8 hours. Your body will thank you when you sleep at least 8 hours.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 02 Aug 2012 6:57 am

So sorry hanabie, I didn't know your were a full fledged Medical Doctor & nutritionist, like my doctor is. The Tuna oil is much lighter and more easily digestible than that found in Salmon & Mackeral. So it is much better, from a rapid weight loss position to not consume those these that can potentially slow down the digestive process. Same thing goes for not eating more than one protein source per meal. The body doesn't work as hard with a single protein source as it needs to do with multiple/complex vitamin sources. Of course, maybe you know not enough about rapid weight loss methods that are NOT detrimental but ARE effective. There are a very few out there.

While Salmon & Mackeral are good diet choices, they are not optimal.
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Post by v4jr4 » Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:46 am

the lynx wrote:The thirsty feeling caused by salt and other phagostimulants (like MSG) is entirely in endocrine level, which runs in your circulation system. So you need to flush it out by drinking a lot of water. Having potassium food can only help a little bit by counter reacting with the chemical groups in those substances but you will still need to flush it out of the system.
sundaymorningstaple wrote:As I cook my own foods, I control how it's cooked. The only time I end up with some saltiness is if my wife think my stirfried veges don't have enough flavour so decides to help me cook and puts a tiny bit of soy sauce in. Pucker factor every time. Spit it out, lots of water. What to do?
Well, I guess we don't have many options :lol:
Speaking of which, I saw the nutrition information in one of the sport drinks. Gee . . . I think I'll skip it :-|

2 months plus, copying the plan from SMS's thread (with some lobang in here and there), jogging at least 5 times a week, and lost 10kg. I think I'll keep on going :lol:

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Post by Jabbey » Wed, 15 Aug 2012 3:49 pm

hanabie wrote:you want to lose weight.

Eat less than your daily calories and exercise.
Of course you need to eat it right.

There are plenty guide out there when you google.

You need to eat fat to lose weight as well. At sms, you are wrong. Salmon and Tuna produces omega 3 fatty acids and it is healthy for your diet.

You eat healthy but you eat over your macro (daily calories) % of protein, % of carb and % of fat. You gain weight. Period.

You need to burn your fat by doing cardio and weight training.

Also, some of you tries to hunger yourself. Good luck.
You will end up with skinny plus FAT. You are encouraging your body to a starvation mode (catabolic state) rather than anabolic state.

You need to sleep enough! Do not ever sleep less than 8 hours. Your body will thank you when you sleep at least 8 hours.
Agreed, sleep is very important. I heard that the liver recuperates / excretes toxins from your body between 11 pm to 2 am so you need to ensure that your body is resting during this period.

I also started going for hot yoga recently where we ran through basic moves in a heated room (approximately 39 degress). It seems quite effective as I've seen a slight fat loss around my waist. And my body feels more energized and refreshed after going for weekly sessions. So this might be an area you might want to try out.

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Post by v4jr4 » Wed, 15 Aug 2012 4:03 pm

Jabbey wrote:I also started going for hot yoga recently where we ran through basic moves in a heated room (approximately 39 degress). It seems quite effective as I've seen a slight fat loss around my waist. And my body feels more energized and refreshed after going for weekly sessions. So this might be an area you might want to try out.
Bikram Yoga?

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Post by v4jr4 » Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:35 pm

Now, I wonder if someone in this forum has a habit to take a spoonful of olive oil a day :D
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Post by v4jr4 » Mon, 03 Sep 2012 2:52 pm

Well, sometimes I "cheat" a little. But with the daily program, I lost 12 kg in the last 3 months. And the story will continue :lol:
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