No, you cannot work for more than one employer while on an EP. If you are caught, you are history.Vek wrote:Hi all,
My first post to kick-off.
I'm on an EP P2 and I'm wondering if these passes allow me to have more than one job? I have my main company "sponsor" for this pass but keen to do some outside consultancy on the side. Its all transparent as its stipulated in my employment contract that I can do this, but will the EP allow me to do so? Any thoughts would be useful.
Also to allow flexibility I'm going to upgrade to P1 status with a supporting letter from my sponsoring company confirming my monthly salary level and afterwards I intent to move onto PEP straight away. I've only been here since August. Is it too early to consider this move to PEP and would it probably get rejected by MOM given the time I've been here?
Thanks
And that is the reason why MOM is cracking down on a lot of things. The PEP is/was initially designed for those who where contemplating making Singapore their home and was designed as a stepping stone to PR. Previously PR was abused for the same reason. (as a free long term visa) Now the gahmen are aware of this so it's getting more and more rigid. Basically, expats are doing it to themselves. Anytime somebody abuses the system, it gets harder for the next guy.Vek wrote: The PEP did look appealing though as it means that you have more flexibility and if something were to happen, you wouldn't need to leave the country in a month. The flexibility was really what I was after.
Thanks
Not if he's on an EP he can't, employers permission or not. It is not up to the employer at all. This is a codicil of working here on an EP. You are allowing to work for only ONE employer. If you try working part time elsewhere, there two thing you are guilty of. Evading taxes, as the 2nd employer cannot report your income, and you wont be reporting it either, and working in violation of the EP itself which very directly tells you that you can only work for a single employer at the employers place of business.observer wrote:Actually, you can. With the explicit written approval of the primary employer. For example, I know people who lecture in a universities part time.
You can actually set up a company on EP and appoint a manager to run it. officially you are not allowed to be active in the company, while on EP, though few have built their company with local assistance and then when the EP runs out with present employer, they apply for EP in their own local Company and there is no need to pay the 50k capital, as you are not applying for the entrepass. The main point is you need to have a PR or Citizen appointed in your company, while you are employed by others. You cannot do 2 jobs officially and if caught will be punished.Vek wrote:Well loopholes will always be abused by some if its possible.
I can see why the policies are there though as frustrating as it is. Especially for those who really want to give Singapore a go with an intent to indeed stay here but need some degree of protection or peace of mind that they have ample time to find another job if something were to happen.
I'm also mythed that say one is in employment and decides to setup their own business; after careful consideration of course; they'd need to quit their job, make their EP void and reapply under their new company. Its okay if the new EP is approved, but if it isn't you've just left a job, started a company and suddenly have a month to leave; no excuses.
Anyway, thanks once again for your response
It shouldn't make much difference and unless your accountant was asleep when the company was created, one of its trade codes will be 'general trading'.Vek wrote:Hi guys,
Just wanted to add a bit more to the conversation as I reported back to my employer on my research in combination with the replies on this forum. We agree that the right thing to do is obviously to follow the rules and policies put in place.
My employer sees value in having me do additional contract work but we change it so that it is through them ie the same company I have my EP with. This way we can attract additional revenue, I'm keeping in line with one EP tied to the same company and all is okay. It is a win win as both employee, company and the community can benefit from the expertise.
However my question is; in terms of project or consulting work; are there rules in place where say the company specialises in manufacturing of vehicles; do other revenue sources also have to belong to the same industry? ie if you're in manufacturing of vehicles and you have know how that can be suited to another industry; can you consult to them and collect revenue?
I hope my questions make sense?
Thanks in advance.
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