Do PRs not want to become citizens becuz of National Service

Soulkjgf · Post by **Soulkjgf** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 9:07 am

Well; its a question that i needed clarity upon for various research purposes for substantiation of idea

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And...be honest in the polls/opinions please.

Post by **x9200** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 9:28 am

To be honest, you are doing it wrong.

Soulkjgf · Post by **Soulkjgf** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 9:38 am

How so?

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:11 am

You really need to do some research on your topic before you try to do a poll. It's obvious you don't have a clue in hell what you are talking about.

If you were a PR, why would NS have a bearing on your decision on taking up citizenship?

For your information, PR's are also required to do NS if they came in on the family ties plan unless they are above the age of requirement or around 30+ years old (they still have to register but are usually given a waiver from active duty). If they get PR under the professional & Technical scheme, then they are exempt from doing NS, but their offspring are required to do NS as PRs. If they took up citizenship, nothing would change and the offspring (2nd Gen) would still be required to do NS, PR or citizen doesn't matter. So, maybe you would like to change your whole project to one that makes sense?

sms

Soulkjgf · Post by **Soulkjgf** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:17 am

Like I said it was a QUESTION ; maybe you should read the post carefully + the poll - its for my research, so stop accusing and thnx for the...info

Post by **x9200** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:44 am

So typical. My wife works in the area (private company) were students approach her from time to time to get some research data. She was first very open but after few initial cases is very hesitant to accept new requests - practically all behave like this is them doing her some favor. Impolite, unreliable and sometimes arrogant. Nobody cares about quality of the data. This is to get a pass/degree not to do any meaningful research.

Wind In My Hair · Post by **Wind In My Hair** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:51 am

Chinese proverb say: Man without smiling face must not open shop.

If you want people to help, you should start by being nice. SMS just did you a favour by providing information, and telling you that as a PR he can't answer your question since it's not accurate enough. "Thank you" would have been a good response.

X9200, it's sad that our system has confused grade-chasing with being educated.

bhauranya · Post by **bhauranya** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:39 am

Wind In My Hair wrote:Chinese proverb say: Man without smiling face must not open shop.

Good one

Post by **Strong Eagle** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:45 am

Soulkjgf wrote:Like I said it was a QUESTION ; maybe you should read the post carefully + the poll - its for my research, so stop accusing and thnx for the...info

It is a DUMB QUESTION because it is not relevant. Sounds like POINTLESS RESEARCH. A waste of time.

As SMS already pointed out to you, taking on PR may mean NS duties, just like citizenship.

And, if you wanted to ask a real question, you'd ask something like, "Do PR's not become citizens because they have to give up their citizenship?"

But even that's not correct, for a poll... it has to be properly constructed to be meaningful.

Post by **nakatago** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:28 pm

One more vote here for "OP is doing it wrong."

ksl · Post by **ksl** » Mon, 25 Oct 2010 2:35 pm

bhauranya wrote:
Wind In My Hair wrote:Chinese proverb say: Man without smiling face must not open shop.
Good one :)I like this one better
it's sad that our system has confused grade-chasing with being educated.

BigSis · Post by **BigSis** » Fri, 29 Oct 2010 2:41 pm

Yup, it's not a very clear question:

"If you are PR, does the fact that you'd have to do NS put you off becoming a citizen?"

and then 'yes/no' for the poll answers instead of 'true/false'

......might sound better.

Although PRs have to do NS anyway!

The answer for me by the way is no because nobody in our family would have to do NS. What would put us off is that we couldn't have dual nationality and we wouldn't want to give up our original nationality. If they allowed dual nationality then we may consider it.

Splatted · Post by **Splatted** » Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:50 pm

I wouldn't want to forfeit my current citizenship.

I've worked for many years, paid taxes. Why shouldn't I be able to reap the benefits of retirement that my home country's citizenship provides, such as a pension, health care etc (should the situation arise)?

On the flip side, there are murmers in the wind that Singapore will extend the retirement age..

Who wants to give up one citizenship, along with all the benefits that we spent a life time working for, in return for.... well, in return for nothing really...

EADG · Post by **EADG** » Sat, 30 Oct 2010 2:50 pm

It's a dumb question because it sounds like it came from a dumb person.

Go ahead, keep using words like "becuz" and see how far that gets you in life.

Strong Eagle wrote:It is a DUMB QUESTION because it is not relevant. Sounds like POINTLESS RESEARCH. A waste of time... it has to be properly constructed to be meaningful.

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