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Postby nakatago » Thu, 11 Nov 2010 9:26 am

QRM wrote:How about psychological punishment? forced in a room listening to Kylie Minoge for 72 hours?


I hear they did this to Iraqi insurgents but they used Barney--the annoying and cloying purple dinosaur.

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Thu, 11 Nov 2010 9:49 pm

QRM wrote:Is the problem the actual act of canning? you will also get the same effect with a red hot branding iron.

Good question, QRM. I think part of the equation is the humiliation of having to bend over with your backside exposed, but I'm not sure. There could be a better alternative as you point out.

By the way, I'm sure you meant 'caning'. Canning is infinitely more barbaric and a punishment no one could survive, not in one piece anyway unless you find a gigantic can :wink:

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Postby anneteoh » Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:43 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote:
QRM wrote:Is the problem the actual act of canning? you will also get the same effect with a red hot branding iron.

Good question, QRM. I think part of the equation is the humiliation of having to bend over with your backside exposed, but I'm not sure. There could be a better alternative as you point out.

By the way, I'm sure you meant 'caning'. Canning is infinitely more barbaric and a punishment no one could survive, not in one piece anyway unless you find a gigantic can :wink:


WIMH, branding 's used for cattle and such like beasts. Was ksl's recount of the parang attack in the padang a real act of violence? I was shocked to read that. Surely, that kind of thing doesn't happen in SG?

I think QRM means a cauldron for boiling the offender with. BTW, what's going on at the moment with this case?

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:56 pm

Anne, I'm not quite sure I understand you but I'll try.

anneteoh wrote:WIMH, branding 's used for cattle and such like beasts

Er, I didn't mean that the alternative to caning was branding. Just that there may be an alternative, which I think was QRM's point.

anneteoh wrote:Was ksl's recount of the parang attack in the padang a real act of violence? I was shocked to read that. Surely, that kind of thing doesn't happen in SG?

Apparently it just did.

anneteoh wrote:I think QRM means a cauldron for boiling the offender

You completely lost me here. Hopefully QRM gets what you meant he meant.

anneteoh wrote:BTW, what's going on at the moment with this case?

I believe sentencing takes place on Tuesday. The Attorney-General's Chambers is calling for 12 weeks jail.

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Postby anneteoh » Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:11 pm

Hi WIMH Sorry I lost you.
I was just explaining 'branding' and 'canning' in their contexts. Obviously, one has to boil before one cans; whilst branding has connotations of beastly punishments for animal -like behaviour. They were, of course, extreme punishments and the whole thing was meant as a parody of QRM's suggestions of the two methods.
Thanks for updating the news. I find the whole thing a WOT to talk about now and I suggest we turn to more significant topics.
Nice to know you.

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Postby Plavt » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 2:21 am

A detail that appears to have been either overlooked or misunderstood is; when an offender is caned the flesh is left permanently scarred. This would be similar to branding which is what QRM meant.

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Postby QRM » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 8:44 am

Amazing how one letter makes a huge difference to the meaning of the sentence. Bit like the statement "it was so crowded Jesus walked in the water" has a whole new meaning when it becomes "it was so crowded Jesus walked on the water"

Anyway yup it was the fact that they get a permanent mark on their skin. Aunty Batty point of boiling is an interesting one, you can have boiling water poured on your head or buttocks as a punishment, instead of 3, 5, 8, strokes of the cane it can be 3, 5, 8 pints of boiling water tipped on your head while you are tied to a chair.

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Postby anneteoh » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 2:46 pm

QRM wrote:Amazing how one letter makes a huge difference to the meaning of the sentence. Bit like the statement "it was so crowded Jesus walked in the water" has a whole new meaning when it becomes "it was so crowded Jesus walked on the water"

Anyway yup it was the fact that they get a permanent mark on their skin. Aunty Batty point of boiling is an interesting one, you can have boiling water poured on your head or buttocks as a punishment, instead of 3, 5, 8, strokes of the cane it can be 3, 5, 8 pints of boiling water tipped on your head while you are tied to a chair.


I hate name callers and you're ganging up again. So now, you've found a good substitute for your racist inclination at poking fun at Asian ladies. But you're only doing this as you can't spell so there's a retard somewhere that propels this disgusting triat in what is otherwise, a civil society. Schtlick !
Trust a low name caller like you to ridicule this serious discussion.
Such anonymous cyber aliases are psychologically categorized as inherent losers at competitions, hence the need to put an otherwise winner down with demeaning words. It's beginning to feel like wading in a tabloid assylum whenever you or the Exiled Rogue troll me.
I might have to take you to court so watcha, there!
You should be canned and caned by your description. lol
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Postby Wind In My Hair » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 3:05 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote:
anneteoh wrote:BTW, what's going on at the moment with this case?

I believe sentencing takes place on Tuesday. The Attorney-General's Chambers is calling for 12 weeks jail.

Sorry I got threads and cases mixed up. My reply referred to the Alan Shadrake case, but I later realized you may be referring to the Kamari Charlton case.

Aargh, vague references and obscure humour really confuse me.

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Postby anneteoh » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 3:08 pm

Plavt wrote:A detail that appears to have been either overlooked or misunderstood is; when an offender is caned the flesh is left permanently scarred. This would be similar to branding which is what QRM meant.


It sounds painful. He wouldn't be able to sit or sleep. From my own expereince with QRM, the punishment would justify the crime. I'm tempted to harden up and leave it at that.
But, if the good religions were to still make any sense in this context, it occurred to me that there is a solution, and it's this.
Shradrack (?) should apologise, retract and burn his books that sought to defame the SG govt and slander its name.
That way, the SG govt might consider waiving the caning and just fine him.

anneteoh

Postby anneteoh » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 3:14 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote:
Wind In My Hair wrote:
anneteoh wrote:BTW, what's going on at the moment with this case?

I believe sentencing takes place on Tuesday. The Attorney-General's Chambers is calling for 12 weeks jail.

Sorry I got threads and cases mixed up. My reply referred to the Alan Shadrake case, but I later realized you may be referring to the Kamari Charlton case.

Aargh, vague references and obscure humour really confuse me.


I was referring to the title case of this thread. Don't worry, Plavt's in the background.

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Postby JayCee » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 3:22 pm

anneteoh wrote:
QRM wrote:Amazing how one letter makes a huge difference to the meaning of the sentence. Bit like the statement "it was so crowded Jesus walked in the water" has a whole new meaning when it becomes "it was so crowded Jesus walked on the water"

Anyway yup it was the fact that they get a permanent mark on their skin. Aunty Batty point of boiling is an interesting one, you can have boiling water poured on your head or buttocks as a punishment, instead of 3, 5, 8, strokes of the cane it can be 3, 5, 8 pints of boiling water tipped on your head while you are tied to a chair.


I hate name callers and you're ganging up again. So now, you've found a good substitute for your racist inclination at poking fun at Asian ladies. But you're only doing this as you can't spell so there's a retard somewhere that propels this disgusting triat in what is otherwise, a civil society. Schtlick !
Trust a low name caller like you to ridicule this serious discussion.
Such anonymous cyber aliases are psychologically categorized as inherent losers at competitions, hence the need to put an otherwise winner down with demeaning words. It's beginning to feel like wading in a tabloid assylum whenever you or the Exiled Rogue troll me.
I might have to take you to court so watcha, there!
You should be canned and caned by your description. lol


Serious question now, but is your real name Norah by any chance?

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Postby anneteoh » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 3:40 pm

JayCee wrote:
Serious question now, but is your real name Norah by any chance?


Tell me who she is and I might be able to help you find her but my family name's not Holmes either.

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Postby JaanJ » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 3:44 pm

Sorry, I can't help but laugh :D it's a bit on the funny side now...oops

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 12 Nov 2010 5:19 pm

anneteoh wrote:
Plavt wrote:A detail that appears to have been either overlooked or misunderstood is; when an offender is caned the flesh is left permanently scarred. This would be similar to branding which is what QRM meant.


It sounds painful. He wouldn't be able to sit or sleep. From my own expereince with QRM, the punishment would justify the crime. I'm tempted to harden up and leave it at that.
But, if the good religions were to still make any sense in this context, it occurred to me that there is a solution, and it's this.
Shradrack (?) should apologise, retract and burn his books that sought to defame the SG govt and slander its name.
That way, the SG govt might consider waiving the caning and just fine him.



You're not a believer in freedom of speech or expression Anne?

I think the issue is one of paranoia and ego. Is SG the only country where the state must not be commented on (apart from in state approved ways)? Was the Soviet Union like this?


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