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Undergard but Work Experience/Achievements Excellent

Postby masterofmysoul » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 7:03 pm

Hello,

I am planning to work in SG and see what SG has for me.

Like the billionaires of Facebook and Yahoo! I am too is an undergraduate and failed to complete my engineering and computer science course due to I start working even before i completed my course.

I have a great 10 year career path over here in Philippines which I started out as a marketing agent and end up being Manger / Operations head running a Philippine office of a USA based company. I worked in 3 companies and work with them on a long term relationship. I have great achievements, excellent track record and successful careers as I may say, considering I am undergraduate.

I wonder if being undergraduate will be a huge factor in landing a job in Singapore?

What type of visa am i eligible?

Will it affect the amount of salary I can achieve?

I am looking forward to some answers that would enlighten me, I hope you can help me out guys here.

TIA

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Postby JayCee » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 7:21 pm

Did you try looking at the MOM website? All the info on each work pass and it's requirements is there

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 7:36 pm

masterofmysoul wrote:What type of visa am i eligible?

Probably debit.

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Re: Undergard but Work Experience/Achievements Excellent

Postby masterofmysoul » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 8:27 pm

x9200 wrote:
masterofmysoul wrote:What type of visa am i eligible?

Probably debit.


I'd like to clarify what VISA iam pertaining to.

Its the kind of pass like EP S-PASS.. In Philippines they call it visa.

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Re: Undergard but Work Experience/Achievements Excellent

Postby masterofmysoul » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 8:32 pm

JayCee wrote:Did you try looking at the MOM website? All the info on each work pass and it's requirements is there


Thanks for the reply JayCee,

Yeah I did. Degree and certified copies of school credentials are needed.

I do not like to go with fake degrees for the primary reason that I am proud of what I achieve even iam undergraduate. I think not most graduate or degree holders achieve what I do.

I saw that Employment Pass in Singapore requires $2500 basic salary monthly. What if a company hired me givin me that salary and i cant get an EP? will they lower down my salary?

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Re: Undergard but Work Experience/Achievements Excellent

Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 8:42 pm

masterofmysoul wrote:
JayCee wrote:Did you try looking at the MOM website? All the info on each work pass and it's requirements is there


Thanks for the reply JayCee,

Yeah I did. Degree and certified copies of school credentials are needed.

I do not like to go with fake degrees for the primary reason that I am proud of what I achieve even iam undergraduate. I think not most graduate or degree holders achieve what I do.

I saw that Employment Pass in Singapore requires $2500 basic salary monthly. What if a company hired me givin me that salary and i cant get an EP? will they lower down my salary?


Look, some definitions are in order. If you hold an undergraduate degree, it means you hold a bachelor degree. If you did not complete university and do not hold a bachelor degree, you are not an undergraduate, you are a drop out.

If you can find a company willing to pay you S$7,000 per month or more you will qualify for a P1 pass and probably get it, whether you have a degree or not.

If you cannot get S$7,000 per month, then the chances are much more slim because there are a million people like you looking for the same jobs, with the same credentials.

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Re: Undergard but Work Experience/Achievements Excellent

Postby masterofmysoul » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 8:57 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
masterofmysoul wrote:
JayCee wrote:Did you try looking at the MOM website? All the info on each work pass and it's requirements is there


Thanks for the reply JayCee,

Yeah I did. Degree and certified copies of school credentials are needed.

I do not like to go with fake degrees for the primary reason that I am proud of what I achieve even iam undergraduate. I think not most graduate or degree holders achieve what I do.

I saw that Employment Pass in Singapore requires $2500 basic salary monthly. What if a company hired me givin me that salary and i cant get an EP? will they lower down my salary?


Look, some definitions are in order. If you hold an undergraduate degree, it means you hold a bachelor degree. If you did not complete university and do not hold a bachelor degree, you are not an undergraduate, you are a drop out.

If you can find a company willing to pay you S$7,000 per month or more you will qualify for a P1 pass and probably get it, whether you have a degree or not.

If you cannot get S$7,000 per month, then the chances are much more slim because there are a million people like you looking for the same jobs, with the same credentials.


thanks strong eagle.


Yes, college drop out is another term for that. Under graduate is a term used in Philippines for those who didnt finish college but do completed 2 or 3 years of their college.

Getting $7K is really hard but I'll give it a shot.

What will happen if:

1. I landed a job, a company offered me 3K
2. I accept it and hired.
3. Applied for EP
4. I was denied for EP

Will my employer fire me right away?

Or my salary will decrease?

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Postby beppi » Mon, 11 Oct 2010 9:41 pm

First, you will have huge problems finding a company willing to employ you, as they all know it's next to impossible to get an EP without a degree (unless, as mentioned, you're above S$7000, but how likely is that?).
Second, your contract will be conditional on the issuance of an EP. If EP is denied, the contract is null and void. Then changing the offered salary would be a complete waste of effort, as it does not increase your chances: A No is a No in Singapore.
Many of your countrymen/women work here as labourers, e.g. cleaners or technicians, with a so-called work permit, which requires no degree, and much lower pay (often below S$1000/month). A dose of humility is required for this, which is not apparent in your posting.

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Postby masterofmysoul » Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:59 am

beppi wrote:First, you will have huge problems finding a company willing to employ you, as they all know it's next to impossible to get an EP without a degree (unless, as mentioned, you're above S$7000, but how likely is that?).
Second, your contract will be conditional on the issuance of an EP. If EP is denied, the contract is null and void. Then changing the offered salary would be a complete waste of effort, as it does not increase your chances: A No is a No in Singapore.
Many of your countrymen/women work here as labourers, e.g. cleaners or technicians, with a so-called work permit, which requires no degree, and much lower pay (often below S$1000/month). A dose of humility is required for this, which is not apparent in your posting.


Thanks for the reply mate,

Since I think that it is impossible for me to acquire EP, will S-Pass will do?

Also, i read about that a "diploma" is required to get an S Pass. I wonder if High school diploma will do for it?

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Postby JayCee » Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:36 am

masterofmysoul wrote:
beppi wrote:First, you will have huge problems finding a company willing to employ you, as they all know it's next to impossible to get an EP without a degree (unless, as mentioned, you're above S$7000, but how likely is that?).
Second, your contract will be conditional on the issuance of an EP. If EP is denied, the contract is null and void. Then changing the offered salary would be a complete waste of effort, as it does not increase your chances: A No is a No in Singapore.
Many of your countrymen/women work here as labourers, e.g. cleaners or technicians, with a so-called work permit, which requires no degree, and much lower pay (often below S$1000/month). A dose of humility is required for this, which is not apparent in your posting.


Thanks for the reply mate,

Since I think that it is impossible for me to acquire EP, will S-Pass will do?

Also, i read about that a "diploma" is required to get an S Pass. I wonder if High school diploma will do for it?


It doesn't make sense to me, most people move to Singapore to be better off financially but as your first post stated so clearly that you're the master of the universe in the Philippines why would you want to leave to move here to work on a S pass and the low salary that would likely come with it?

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Postby madura » Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:26 pm

beppi wrote:Many of your countrymen/women work here as labourers, e.g. cleaners or technicians, with a so-called work permit, which requires no degree, and much lower pay (often below S$1000/month).


And many of these Filipino labourers and service staff have degrees.


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