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Threat of eviction

Post by KerryB » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 3:09 pm

Hi Folks,

I have had a leak in my front room for the last 2 + years to the extent I have mold on the ceiling and the floor a constant puddle in the middle of the front room, excesive mold in other areas, a leak of the dining room area, termites and the list goes on. The landlord who is base in the UK has done nothing but make excuses. I am also aware that he has not paid his management fees for the last 12 month.

I have stopped paying rent as it is the only way to get his attention to the problem.. He is now threatening eviction.

Does anyone now the process. All i want is livable conditions and I'm sure if he could see the conditions I have be made to live in.. Well I don't think he would be paying rent either..

Advice.. or a good lawyers contacts please.. Cheers K

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Post by revhappy » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 3:22 pm

How long is the lease? You mentioned last 2 + years. Best thing is just vacate the house and find a new one. What forces you to continue staying at the same place? You have mentioned that you have stopped paying rent. So are you living there for free?

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Post by KerryB » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 4:08 pm

Thanks for the reply... I'm in the lease till June 2011. The landlors is tres agressive and I know he will persue.. I just hate being bullied. The place isgreat I just want him to fix the place.. and stay till June.. He's actually looking to sell but in this condition,, Fat chance!!

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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 4:28 pm

Art of compromise. You have a UK landlord. Big hassle for him to get things fixed. You could get them fixed.

Make an offer.

a) List of everything that is screwed up... mold, water, paint
b) Find someone to fix it all
c) Get an estimate
d) Offer to supervise repairs
e) Take it out of the rent.
f) Alternative - you go to case, small claims - health issues, safety issues... anything that will cost him money.

Always be polite and persistent. When we moved in, landlady said exactly that to my wife... my you are persistent... but we got what we wanted and have a good working relationship with landlady.

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Post by JayCee » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 5:09 pm

KerryB wrote:Thanks for the reply... I'm in the lease till June 2011. The landlors is tres agressive and I know he will persue.. I just hate being bullied. The place isgreat I just want him to fix the place.. and stay till June.. He's actually looking to sell but in this condition,, Fat chance!!
So you've been there 2+ years already and you're stuck in the lease until June 2011? How long is the lease??

Or did you renew the lease when you already had the problems? In which case, why?

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Post by KerryB » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 5:10 pm

Thank you that's great advise....

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Post by JayCee » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 5:19 pm

KerryB wrote:Thank you that's great advise....
Ok here's some advise for you.

Learn to engage your brain before signing legally binding contracts and then bitching about it on the internet.

Good enough?

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Post by KerryB » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 1:19 pm

JayCee... Good point, not that helpful though... GF

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 1:31 pm

JayCee wrote:
KerryB wrote:Thank you that's great advise....
Ok here's some advise for you.

Learn to engage your brain before signing legally binding contracts and then bitching about it on the internet.

Good enough?
Did you mean advise or did you mean advice? :-|

He may well have signed a 3 year contract (it's been done before). Maybe the leaks didn't start until after his moving in? Talk about engaging the gray stuff first....... pot? kettle? black? :wink:
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Post by Strong Eagle » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 5:57 pm

JayCee wrote:
KerryB wrote:Thank you that's great advise....
Ok here's some advise for you.

Learn to engage your brain before signing legally binding contracts and then bitching about it on the internet.

Good enough?
This is rather mean. I get that the OP is a good guy who signed a lease in good faith, and has gone the extra mile in trying to get things resolved, understanding that he has a landlord many miles away.

Instead, the OP has been pissed upon. My strategy is for him to piss back, only let the landlord think that he is being showered with warm tea water, until such a time as he becomes a true dick, at which time, our OP takes good aim and pisses right down his throat.

JayCee, I'd never hire you as a project manager. All problems have conflicts that require finding the middle ground. The middle ground is found through a combination of good will, carrots, and sticks.

So far, OP has been good guy, living with a crap landlord. OP takes an action, which in my opinion was not the correct one, but landlord acts in character... a scheisskopf!

OP, in order to effect a solution that does not escalate the issues, lays out the concerns and needs, provides a solution, and lays out the costs. All bear the costs... landlord must fix, OP leads the way. Emphasize with landlord that this is the best way out, all other alternatives have much worse consequence, including expense.

If landlord proves to be a shit, time to piss down his throat. Be prepared to file court claims for health, lack of livability, whatever. Doesn't really matter, just that he will have to respond or face Singapore gahmen consequences. He needs to understand consequences.

OP, friendly as always, notes that he will leave if evicted, but place is so screwed up it will take a lot of money to fix and he will be without rent otherwise.

The point? Force the conversation to what the OP wants.

And you, JayCee? What did you contribute? Nothing except derogatory comments which make you, not the OP, look small.

Best.

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Re: Threat of eviction

Post by Mad Scientist » Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:53 am

KerryB wrote:Hi Folks,

I have had a leak in my front room for the last 2 + years to the extent I have mold on the ceiling and the floor a constant puddle in the middle of the front room, excesive mold in other areas, a leak of the dining room area, termites and the list goes on. The landlord who is base in the UK has done nothing but make excuses. I am also aware that he has not paid his management fees for the last 12 month.

I have stopped paying rent as it is the only way to get his attention to the problem.. He is now threatening eviction.

Does anyone now the process. All i want is livable conditions and I'm sure if he could see the conditions I have be made to live in.. Well I don't think he would be paying rent either..

Advice.. or a good lawyers contacts please.. Cheers K
If I could add on to what SE said, paper trail is very important.
For every mail that you comms write a cc.. to a lawyer name .
You can if you do know any lawyer friend that you are using his name just a ploy to make the LL understand that if everything goes to custard , you are prepared to go the extra mile to get this resolve. If it does blow up on your face, you can always engage the lawyer friend to resolve the dispute if you chose to.
I did that tactic though I did not intend to use the lawyer at all. It works .
From my experience if the LL is a Sger, he/she is scared sh*t if you let this goes to litigation and the court.This is the local mentality.
The positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible.Yahoo !!!

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Post by x9200 » Sat, 02 Oct 2010 12:27 pm

Good point MS. I always cc to somebody if I expect that some sort of proof may be needed. Typically I do it to my agent (a very reasonable one). If OP has no lawyer friend or a trustful agent it could be anyone outside her/his closest family circle.

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Post by ksl » Sat, 02 Oct 2010 6:07 pm

x9200 wrote:Good point MS. I always cc to somebody if I expect that some sort of proof may be needed. Typically I do it to my agent (a very reasonable one). If OP has no lawyer friend or a trustful agent it could be anyone outside her/his closest family circle.
Fell a sleep at the wheel!
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Post by x9200 » Sat, 02 Oct 2010 7:06 pm

Ksl, you responded in a wrong thread :)
I will go to the right one.

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Post by ksl » Sat, 02 Oct 2010 7:19 pm

x9200 wrote:Ksl, you responded in a wrong thread :)
I will go to the right one.
Thanks !

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