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Postby carlsum1986 » Sat, 16 Oct 2010 1:24 am

nakatago wrote:
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nakatago wrote:my boss still turns down the citizenship offer. to him, he doesn't see the advantage of giving up his citizenship for a singaporean one.

You mean as his principle or he got another offer after rejecting the first?


no other offer. he just doesn't see it's worth it to give up his citizenship for a singaporean one.


yea especially since it is a tiny nation the size of a city in other countries and they dont allow dual citizenship(which eliminates the option of escape when u regret making the switch).......

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Postby nakatago » Sat, 16 Oct 2010 2:13 am

carlsum1986 wrote:
nakatago wrote:
x9200 wrote:
nakatago wrote:my boss still turns down the citizenship offer. to him, he doesn't see the advantage of giving up his citizenship for a singaporean one.

You mean as his principle or he got another offer after rejecting the first?


no other offer. he just doesn't see it's worth it to give up his citizenship for a singaporean one.


yea especially since it is a tiny nation the size of a city in other countries and they dont allow dual citizenship(which eliminates the option of escape when u regret making the switch).......


yeah, a lot of people feel that way. also, some of the seniors already said that if the gubmint allowed multiple citizenship, they'd take singaporean citizenship.

that talk about "apply for citizenship or we won't renew your REP" just screams "you should be happy we're offering you this. take it or leave it."

sounds arrogant, doesn't it?

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Postby carlsum1986 » Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:34 am

nakatago wrote:
carlsum1986 wrote:
nakatago wrote:
x9200 wrote:
nakatago wrote:my boss still turns down the citizenship offer. to him, he doesn't see the advantage of giving up his citizenship for a singaporean one.

You mean as his principle or he got another offer after rejecting the first?


no other offer. he just doesn't see it's worth it to give up his citizenship for a singaporean one.


yea especially since it is a tiny nation the size of a city in other countries and they dont allow dual citizenship(which eliminates the option of escape when u regret making the switch).......


yeah, a lot of people feel that way. also, some of the seniors already said that if the gubmint allowed multiple citizenship, they'd take singaporean citizenship.

that talk about "apply for citizenship or we won't renew your REP" just screams "you should be happy we're offering you this. take it or leave it."

sounds arrogant, doesn't it?


nothing out of the ordinary as we all know and experienced small country with a big ego

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Sat, 16 Oct 2010 4:57 pm

Not exactly arrogance, just pragmatism. With worryingly low birth rates, the gahmen needs people willing to stay for the long haul and bring up children here. Accepting citizenship proves commitment to do so, otherwise "Next!" With a 20-year time lag to produce the future workforce, there's no time to wait for people to think about it. Those who aren't here for the long term have to make way for others who potentially are.

Not saying it's right or good, just that paranoia rather than ego is the driving sentiment, though it may feel no different to the individual foreign worker not invited to stay.

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Postby nakatago » Sat, 16 Oct 2010 5:28 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote:Not exactly arrogance, just pragmatism. With worryingly low birth rates, the gahmen needs people willing to stay for the long haul and bring up children here. Accepting citizenship proves commitment to do so, otherwise "Next!" With a 20-year time lag to produce the future workforce, there's no time to wait for people to think about it. Those who aren't here for the long term have to make way for others who potentially are.

Not saying it's right or good, just that paranoia rather than ego is the driving sentiment, though it may feel no different to the individual foreign worker not invited to stay.


for what it's worth, it was not an official statement and just made the gubmint official who said it look like he wasn't high on using tact.

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Postby x9200 » Sat, 16 Oct 2010 6:21 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote:Not exactly arrogance, just pragmatism. With worryingly low birth rates, the gahmen needs people willing to stay for the long haul and bring up children here. Accepting citizenship proves commitment to do so, otherwise "Next!" With a 20-year time lag to produce the future workforce, there's no time to wait for people to think about it. Those who aren't here for the long term have to make way for others who potentially are.

Not saying it's right or good, just that paranoia rather than ego is the driving sentiment, though it may feel no different to the individual foreign worker not invited to stay.

I would say a bit of desperation. Understandable also for the reasons you mentioned. The problem is that with the double citizenship not allowed it gives only surrogacy of loyalty and as such is not worth too much.


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