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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 6:42 pm

projsanti wrote:
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singaporeflyer wrote:What SMS said is perfect. Also what is your domain of work?


I'm glad I got your approval! :lol:


Excuse me SMS, i didnt get that quit well.


I think singaporeflyer was referring to this....

(I was just having a poke at SF!) ;)

sundaymorningstaple wrote:My suggestion? Try looking for another position with another company. Then, if you are rejected again, it's probably because the MOM feels that there are sufficient locally trained citizens or PR already here to be able to fill the position.

The granting of and EP is a two part process. One it your academic qualifications & experience. You have passed that part if you have already gotten an EPEC.

The second part is the employer needs to justify to MOM WHY they need to hire a foreigner instead of a local. This is often the stumbling point. Even thought you are "qualified" there may well be '000's of locals with the same qualifications. Why should they let a company hire a foreigner to do a job when there are sufficient local available to to the job? Or the company might have had problems with MOM before and MOM are punishing them (has happened - errant employers often get black-listed or help up)

So, try again with another employer, if it happens again, go home. My best advice.

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Postby ksl » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 7:09 pm

You need the company HR to appeal on the grounds, they are doing business with Thailand and they have been unable to find suitable Singaporeans with the relevant skill set in Thai language, skills in strong negociating skills are hard to find, and trading in Thailand is good for Singapore, though the company may have to document to that effect. I believe MOM are critical for finer details before swinging the axe!

Also send me your CV if you will, It may well come in handy as we are exporters.
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Postby projsanti » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 7:55 pm

ksl wrote:You need the company HR to appeal on the grounds, they are doing business with Thailand and they have been unable to find suitable Singaporeans with the relevant skill set in Thai language skills in strong negociating skills, and trading in Thailand, though the company may have to document to that effect. I believe MOM are critical for finer details before swinging the axe!

Also send me your CV if you will, It may well come in handy as we are exporters.


Can i have your email address please or mail me the email address on projsanti@gmail.com.

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Postby revhappy » Wed, 08 Sep 2010 3:44 pm

projsanti wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote:
projsanti wrote:
x9200 wrote:I would be surprise if there are no (at least hidden) quotas here. They are practically everywhere - including openly like for HDB, or some attempts (?) by MOE. Two top positions in this country are also following such model :)


So should I still keep confidence and look for job or go back not wasting anymore money for no purpose??


What SMS said is perfect. Also what is your domain of work?


It is International Payroll company and I am MBA-Finance from reputed university of Thailand. The offered job profile is related to finance and International Business.


2500$ is way too low for a 4 year MBA Finance guy. There would be tones of locals competing at that price point.

You need to seek a job paying atleast 5k in order to stay head and shoulder above the locals.

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EP Rejected inspite of EPEC

Postby yadnesh » Wed, 24 Nov 2010 9:54 am

Mine too... EP gt rejected... This is dammm Frustrating... ..1st time company applied through internet and it gt rejected... Reason: Information Inconsistent..

Company asked me if i want to go for appeal, but i choose to go for fresh application Manually... so as to ensure all information has been provided... .. Waited 4 weeks.. .. .. ANd gt message yesterday tht EP gt Rejected... and employer can chk reason online... Called Employer.. and Employer says no reason has been mentioned.. only thing mentioned is Application Unsuccessful..

Now 1stly please let me know , how and from where can i get exact reason for rejection. As from myside i had provided entire 'consistent' information .

Wht worries me the most is, what if i find another job, They apply for my EP... and it gets rejected again..

1stly, It is hard to find employers who are willing to employ EPEC Holders.. Also nt to mention i did my Masters in Singapore, from UK university .. Hospitality Background, have 3 yrs work exp, Did my B.A (Hons) from swiss... Honors degree from Manchester Metropolitan University.

Have worked in Swiss, US ... .. and was hoping to work in Singapore ... But all seeming difficult with this trail of EP rejections..

Help me out guys..

Thanks..

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Re: EP Rejected inspite of EPEC

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:29 am

yadnesh wrote:Mine too... EP gt rejected... This is dammm Frustrating... ..1st time company applied through internet and it gt rejected... Reason: Information Inconsistent..

Company asked me if i want to go for appeal, but i choose to go for fresh application Manually... so as to ensure all information has been provided... .. Waited 4 weeks.. .. .. ANd gt message yesterday tht EP gt Rejected... and employer can chk reason online... Called Employer.. and Employer says no reason has been mentioned.. only thing mentioned is Application Unsuccessful..

Now 1stly please let me know , how and from where can i get exact reason for rejection. As from myside i had provided entire 'consistent' information .

If you filled out your manual application with the same atrocious English that you use here, it doesn't surprise me that you were rejected. Please, if you want to be taken seriously, write seriously. We don't want to have to translate a post before we try to answer it. This is an expat forum, not a local forum.

You cannot find out the reasons for a rejection. If they did that, then they would be getting tailor made applications wouldn't they.


Wht worries me the most is, what if i find another job, They apply for my EP... and it gets rejected again..

Best advice is to apply for another company, and, like in my earlier reply to the other poster, if you are again, unsuccessful, go home and don't waste any more time here.

1stly, It is hard to find employers who are willing to employ EPEC Holders.. Also nt to mention i did my Masters in Singapore, from UK university .. Hospitality Background, have 3 yrs work exp, Did my B.A (Hons) from swiss... Honors degree from Manchester Metropolitan University.

Masters Degrees are a dime a dozen in Singapore. Only the better ones are recognized. (reputed in Singapore's eyes, not your eyes.) If your Masters was done via correspondence, it has, in a lot of cases, virtually no value at all in the eyes of local employers.

Have worked in Swiss, US ... .. and was hoping to work in Singapore ... But all seeming difficult with this trail of EP rejections..

Help me out guys..

Thanks..

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Re: EP Rejected inspite of EPEC

Postby revhappy » Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:02 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
yadnesh wrote:Mine too... EP gt rejected... This is dammm Frustrating... ..1st time company applied through internet and it gt rejected... Reason: Information Inconsistent..

Company asked me if i want to go for appeal, but i choose to go for fresh application Manually... so as to ensure all information has been provided... .. Waited 4 weeks.. .. .. ANd gt message yesterday tht EP gt Rejected... and employer can chk reason online... Called Employer.. and Employer says no reason has been mentioned.. only thing mentioned is Application Unsuccessful..

Now 1stly please let me know , how and from where can i get exact reason for rejection. As from myside i had provided entire 'consistent' information .

If you filled out your manual application with the same atrocious English that you use here, it doesn't surprise me that you were rejected. Please, if you want to be taken seriously, write seriously. We don't want to have to translate a post before we try to answer it. This is an expat forum, not a local forum.

You cannot find out the reasons for a rejection. If they did that, then they would be getting tailor made applications wouldn't they.



This is the problem with the millenial generation from India. They got access to cell phones and internet even before they could learn english properly and whatever english they have learnt is via bad habits like shortform SMS language

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Re: EP Rejected inspite of EPEC

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:06 am

revhappy wrote:This is the problem with the millenial generation from India. They got access to cell phones and internet even before they could learn english properly and whatever english they have learnt is via bad habits like shortform SMS language


:D That did make me look up .. :D

Well, I just popped in here, and had a similar experience with my EP - when I arrived here, and switched my job - then there was no S Pass Q/ P1/P2 - my pass got rejected, and appeals were too rejected, and those days, you must cancel your EP before applying for the next one, and you must be on social visa, and MOM happily kept stamping my passport for 14 day visa extension upon every appeal and also reminded me I can't submit another application while the current one is under review .. until I took a risk, and withdrew the application and applied for another company, at a higher pay, plus a larger company, and EP was approved in 2 days flat. I could only surmise that either the first company was too small, or my pay was low- or both. Never found out which one, and MOM doesn't tell anything ..

my 2 cents ..


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