EP Rejection inspite of EPEC

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EP Rejection inspite of EPEC

Post by projsanti » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 3:51 am

I got a job but rejected for EP. I got EPEC issued by MOM before i came here. Company is offering me s$ 2500+ salary, i have full time masters degree from reputed university, approx 4 years of work experience but still what didnt satisfied them?????? My company got a response that the candidate doesn't meet the criteria. What do i miss? If i do not have to be given EP why was i issued EPEC? It doesnt make any sense first give permission to look for job then reject the pass after candidate get job? Am i lacking something to be eligible for EP??

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 7:08 am

Probably.
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Re: EP Rejection inspite of EPEC

Post by carlsum1986 » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 9:40 am

projsanti wrote:I got a job but rejected for EP. I got EPEC issued by MOM before i came here. Company is offering me s$ 2500+ salary, i have full time masters degree from reputed university, approx 4 years of work experience but still what didnt satisfied them?????? My company got a response that the candidate doesn't meet the criteria. What do i miss? If i do not have to be given EP why was i issued EPEC? It doesnt make any sense first give permission to look for job then reject the pass after candidate get job? Am i lacking something to be eligible for EP??
epec does not guarantee u an ep...it is stated clearly there if I remember correctly..

was your epec issued more than 6 months ago?

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Post by x9200 » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:41 am

EPEC is issued based on your educational and work experience background but these are not all the criteria you need to meet. There are some racial and perhaps country specific quotas. There can be No of others for obvious reasons not revealed to the public. Things like that.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:07 pm

x9200 wrote:There are some racial and perhaps country specific quotas.
If I am not wrong there is no ethnic/country specific quota for EP.

Actually there is no quota based cap for EP even though the MOM will see the number of locals/foreigners employed by the company as a factor for EP approval.

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What is a point of EPEC?

Post by projsanti » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:24 pm

My EPEC was issued some 40 days ago. So does that mean, i should better bag pack and go back home? What is a alternative left for me??
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Post by x9200 » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:25 pm

I would be surprise if there are no (at least hidden) quotas here. They are practically everywhere - including openly like for HDB, or some attempts (?) by MOE. Two top positions in this country are also following such model :)

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Post by projsanti » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:33 pm

x9200 wrote:I would be surprise if there are no (at least hidden) quotas here. They are practically everywhere - including openly like for HDB, or some attempts (?) by MOE. Two top positions in this country are also following such model :)


So should I still keep confidence and look for job or go back not wasting anymore money for no purpose??

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 1:00 pm

My suggestion? Try looking for another position with another company. Then, if you are rejected again, it's probably because the MOM feels that there are sufficient locally trained citizens or PR already here to be able to fill the position.

The granting of and EP is a two part process. One it your academic qualifications & experience. You have passed that part if you have already gotten an EPEC.

The second part is the employer needs to justify to MOM WHY they need to hire a foreigner instead of a local. This is often the stumbling point. Even thought you are "qualified" there may well be '000's of locals with the same qualifications. Why should they let a company hire a foreigner to do a job when there are sufficient local available to to the job? Or the company might have had problems with MOM before and MOM are punishing them (has happened - errant employers often get black-listed or help up)

So, try again with another employer, if it happens again, go home. My best advice.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 1:34 pm

projsanti wrote:
x9200 wrote:I would be surprise if there are no (at least hidden) quotas here. They are practically everywhere - including openly like for HDB, or some attempts (?) by MOE. Two top positions in this country are also following such model :)


So should I still keep confidence and look for job or go back not wasting anymore money for no purpose??
What SMS said is perfect. Also what is your domain of work?

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Post by projsanti » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 1:59 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
projsanti wrote:
x9200 wrote:I would be surprise if there are no (at least hidden) quotas here. They are practically everywhere - including openly like for HDB, or some attempts (?) by MOE. Two top positions in this country are also following such model :)


So should I still keep confidence and look for job or go back not wasting anymore money for no purpose??
What SMS said is perfect. Also what is your domain of work?
It is International Payroll company and I am MBA-Finance from reputed university of Thailand. The offered job profile is related to finance and International Business.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 3:40 pm

projsanti wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote:
projsanti wrote:

So should I still keep confidence and look for job or go back not wasting anymore money for no purpose??
What SMS said is perfect. Also what is your domain of work?
It is International Payroll company and I am MBA-Finance from reputed university of Thailand. The offered job profile is related to finance and International Business.
Is your university listed here?

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... tions.aspx

MOM is refining its recognized university list in the past few months.

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Post by projsanti » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 5:07 pm

My college is not listed but so on EPEC list. My college is international college based on Thailand, to help you with it is Asian Institute of Technology. Our MBA is ranked upto 23 on some of Asia pacific MBA ranking institute.

http://www.mbaprograms.org/mbaprograms/asiamba.asp

http://toprankingmba.com/topmba_asia.htm

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 5:42 pm

singaporeflyer wrote: What SMS said is perfect. Also what is your domain of work?
I'm glad I got your approval! :lol:
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Post by projsanti » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 5:53 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote: What SMS said is perfect. Also what is your domain of work?
I'm glad I got your approval! :lol:
Excuse me SMS, i didnt get that quit well.

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