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question regarding ns deferment and foreign education

Postby jchan7 » Wed, 01 Sep 2010 4:55 pm

okay the title's rather vague. i'm in abit of a pickle here and i need some advice.

i've been accepted to a university in the US for my bachelors. currently, i'm a singapore PR. my classes begin on the first week of january 2011. i got my admission offer in may and i registered myself with a polytechnic just in case mindef decideed to call me up for ns. thing is, due to the whole tuition grant thing, i can only attend for one semester before the whole loan and 3 year bond thing kicks in. so i'll only be registered with the polytechnic until the end of the first semester, which, if i don't inform them until the last minute, is 18th october or somewhere around there, give or take a few days?

my main question is: can mindef call me up for ns between my end of semester (18th october) and the start of my classes (first week of jan) ? i just turned 19. already deferred twice as a private candidate for O levels. basically i don't know how long it takes after you leave an institution before mindef calls you up for ns. i don't wanna ask the ns hotline because i feel its kinda risky.

any help would be appreciated

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 01 Sep 2010 5:25 pm

First of all, your post is damn confusing.

SPR or Sger be it studying locally or overseas are allowed up to college, polytechnics equivalent. Tertiary education is not allowed until you have completed your NS obligation.
What do you want to do? Hold on to SPR by doing poly locally or go for Tertiary overseas?
If you are alone living here the answer is quite straight forward . If you are with the family then it is a different ball game.
It does not matter if NS callup on the second semester or otherwise. The minute you end abruptly your poly locally.. Be prepared for NS . It will take about 4 to 6 weeks for you to report the latest. Some within a week you finish your study.Everything is linked in SG.
So.... if you intend to go overseas , you have to give up SPR but be prepared not to be allowed to reapply or coming back for employment. You can still come for social visit . That's about it.
If you skip without renouncing SPR you are still liable for NS, be prepared not to return to SG even in transit.
Gahmen see that since you shun NS obligation , they will shun you from gaining employment.
Is this crystal clear for you?
So what do you want to do ?
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Postby jchan7 » Wed, 01 Sep 2010 5:32 pm

well first of all, i want to give up my PR, so i don't have to do ns. i have absolutely no intention to work in singapore, even in the future.

secondly, i have tonnes of friends who did that and they still visit singapore on a tourist visa, so i don't think that's gonna be an issue.

btw i know there's some sort of medical checkup before you actually have to start ns. i have people saying it can be anywhere from 3 months to 6 months (yes, serious) after leaving an institution while on deferment, before mindef calls you. for JC students, they finish their A levels in november and most of them are called up for ns the following year in april/may, which is kinda consistent with the time period i posted above. there are a few who are called in jan, so thats the discrepancy that i'm worried about, because its a very short time period. if need be, i'd have to return to my home country in between. but if possible, i'd like to avoid that added cost, which is why i'm asking....

on a sidenote, i can enter the US as early as 30 days before my class starts (according to the immigration website), so early december if its absolutely necessary.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 02 Sep 2010 2:31 am

jchan7 wrote:well first of all, i want to give up my PR, so i don't have to do ns. i have absolutely no intention to work in singapore, even in the future.

OK that is your choice

secondly, i have tonnes of friends who did that and they still visit singapore on a tourist visa, so i don't think that's gonna be an issue.

Yes if you renounce and return your blue IC to ICA. Do it properly

btw i know there's some sort of medical checkup before you actually have to start ns. i have people saying it can be anywhere from 3 months to 6 months (yes, serious) after leaving an institution while on deferment, before mindef calls you. for JC students, they finish their A levels in november and most of them are called up for ns the following year in april/may, which is kinda consistent with the time period i posted above. there are a few who are called in jan, so thats the discrepancy that i'm worried about, because its a very short time period. if need be, i'd have to return to my home country in between. but if possible, i'd like to avoid that added cost, which is why i'm asking....

on a sidenote, i can enter the US as early as 30 days before my class starts (according to the immigration website), so early december if its absolutely necessary.

I cannot help you on that. When is the call up for check up, I do not know, if you are from school or poly cohort, it will be on that timeline. If you are the odd one, as I have said in my earlier post.Some were called up because of age and month born to coincide with the NS Intake.
If you are leaving SG for good by Dec. Return the blue IC about two weeks from the date of your departure. ICA may give you 30 days standard big visa upon you returning your blue IC


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