and don't forget about that it also matters where you went everyday for your cereal (re: in sg, it matters from which institution you got your decoder ring--er, i mean your degree). that's why i think a lot of singaporeans got their degrees from abroad, from australia, for example, given the stiff competition for slots in the top schools.Splatted wrote:don't bother getting a degree by distance learning... Kind of looked down upon in sg. they're considered as good as having found your degree in a box of cereal.
you're preaching to the choir, brothersundaymorningstaple wrote:Interesting. I find it just the opposite. At least when it come to local degree holders. Most of their thought processes are just a myopic as their eyesight. Most degree holders here, I find, are rather inflexible as they grew up learning that there is only one correct answer and that is found in the 10 years question crib book. Most cannot think outside of the box and when something fall outside of the narrow parameters that they learned, they are witless. Whereas, the guy who came up through the ranks and got his hands greasy as as technician not only know how it works, he can also fix it and can tell you what will 'actually' happen in normal usage.
As was already mentioned by someone else here, a degree only say the person has the capability to learn or regurgitate answers. It's doesn't tell you if that person has the ability to think. The best Singapore engineers? They are the Polytechnic diploma holders who went on to the UK or Aus to get a 3 year BSc degree. Much better than one's who did the normal 4 years local route to the same degree.
In short a degree is merely a qualification, experience and practical knowledge counts for far more. Even here in the UK it is puzzling how somebody who leaves University with a degree in electronics more often than not doesn't know how a fridge works as one example.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Interesting. I find it just the opposite. At least when it come to local degree holders. Most of their thought processes are just a myopic as their eyesight. Most degree holders here, I find, are rather inflexible as they grew up learning that there is only one correct answer and that is found in the 10 years question crib book. Most cannot think outside of the box and when something fall outside of the narrow parameters that they learned, they are witless. Whereas, the guy who came up through the ranks and got his hands greasy as as technician not only know how it works, he can also fix it and can tell you what will 'actually' happen in normal usage.
As was already mentioned by someone else here, a degree only say the person has the capability to learn or regurgitate answers. It's doesn't tell you if that person has the ability to think. The best Singapore engineers? They are the Polytechnic diploma holders who went on to the UK or Aus to get a 3 year BSc degree. Much better than one's who did the normal 4 years local route to the same degree.
Happens already I remember in London, my fellow architect chums complaining that the tube or bus driver taking them to work every morning is earning more thank they do. (no architect unions)BigSis wrote:I can see a world in the not too distant future where lawyers and architects will be earning average wages and plumbers and roofers will be on megabucks because there will be so few of them left
True - a friend of mine got a job driving the tube trains and he was on good money.QRM wrote:Happens already I remember in London, my fellow architect chums complaining that the tube or bus driver taking them to work every morning is earning more thank they do. (no architect unions)BigSis wrote:I can see a world in the not too distant future where lawyers and architects will be earning average wages and plumbers and roofers will be on megabucks because there will be so few of them left
In my university years we used to say about items like the fridge:sundaymorningstaple wrote:The best Singapore engineers? They are the Polytechnic diploma holders who went on to the UK or Aus to get a 3 year BSc degree. Much better than one's who did the normal 4 years local route to the same degree.
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